http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_05/b3918001_mz001.htm?campaign_id=nws_insdr_jan21&link_position=link1]]>Feb 3rd 2007 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/By your ratioanale, McDonalds is the best restaurant, WalMart is the coolest store, NASCAR is the best sport, and Mercedes Benz suck because they have a lot less cars out there than everyone else.
But why am I even responding to someone who actually quotes a, get this, PRO WRESTLER! HA ha ha! Wow, if your going ot be a fanboi, at least make it something worth while!
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Let's forget security for a moment; let's discuss the other massive disadvantages to Vista: You can't possibly run Vista at full capacity on your current machine, unless you recently upgraded your pc to a 64 bit processor, at least a couple gigs of ram, and plenty of hard drive space to harbor the 3rd party programs that most likely are having support issues with this beautiful operating system. Secondly, what does Vista look like? No one eats a veggie burger unless it looks remotely like the real thing, and the veggie burger that is Vista is haplessly trying to emulate OSX tiger...which it isn't even doing to the fullest. Moving forward, in a mere few months, Tiger (which Vista can't emulate to the fullest currently) will be replaced by Leopard, which anyone with half a brain (sadly this excludes the vast majority of brainwashed Windows PC cohorts) recognizes as far superior to the current version of Mac operating software. This new OS will also, shockingly enough, be compatible with most current Macs, as well as *guffaw* some older models! Blimey!

I was an avid pc builder and user, but lets be honest with ourselves; Bill Gates screwed Steve Jobs early on. Just recently Jobs has truly regained his savvy and gained an upperhand on Bill, and now its surfacing; Bill is a thief and the captain of a flagship that is losing face to the public. The 21st century will see the tides change towards a true visionary; Jobs and his stock options!!!]]>Feb 4th 2007 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Thank you Windows for all those possibilities :) Hacking a mac became worth the try the day windows became available on macs.]]>Feb 3rd 2007 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 6th 2007 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
waiting to see another war here between windows and mac...

fight people! fight!]]>Feb 3rd 2007 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
And before anyone is like; "ZOMG most of those required third party programs or drivers ZOMG!!!"; keep in mind the vast majority of Windows exploits do also. ]]>Feb 3rd 2007 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 5th 2007 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 5th 2007 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
"We follow this stuff fairly closely and we haven't seen or heard about any prominent security threats to Apple's operating system in quite some time"

Well Ryan, that's not so much something to tout.

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060513

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You think he's such a thin-skinned little puppy? Levy's questions were puff balls, actually.

Gates lost it--proof the Apple ads are hitting a nerve. Frankly, if anything, Hodgman's shtick is gentle satire. PCs are on average much, much worse and their users--present company excepted, of course, har har!--much more doltish. Let Gates spend an hour doing Windoze tech support if he thinks otherwise about the great unwashed using his crapware!]]>Feb 3rd 2007 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/]]>Feb 3rd 2007 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 4th 2007 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
i for one welcome our windows (now bug free) overlords.

this should make my rating go down...]]>Feb 3rd 2007 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
its not because they call it the month of bugs that they find one everyday is it?

they falsly claimed that the exploit was also with apple airport card/software, which was not true
that made the exploit a non issue as all macbooks and macbooks pro have airport cards anyway

but since you seem to know that there are countless other bugs and exploits, maybe you can help us ignorant people with some references and evidence instead of just calling names?]]>Feb 3rd 2007 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 4th 2007 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
Reality is, even if Mac indeed had one exploit (which it doesn't), that's still only one to the hundreds found on the PC. ]]>Feb 3rd 2007 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
"On the desktop side, IDC sees Linux' share more than doubling, from 3% today to 6% in 2007"]]>Feb 3rd 2007 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
1. Bill gates must've been too busy doing whatever he does to use a windows PC for like the last 10 years.
2. Bill gates got some next level anti virus software and a firewall which some aliens made just for him.
3. He doesnt work at microsoft.. He's lying to everyone, He think's his coffee table is a computer.]]>Feb 3rd 2007 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
When you steal a concept (i.e. GUI), you must do everything in your power to prove that you did not steal it, which may include lying. Lying some more. And then accusing others of lying and then stealing another of their concepts. And then lying some more. And then falling on your face and lying. Some more.

("Haha, virus, virus, haha, virus virus" Does anyone remember that one?)]]>Feb 3rd 2007 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Stick 2 the subject ass!]]>Feb 4th 2007 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Feb 3rd 2007 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.securityfocus.com/bid

Comparatively XP has slowed down a lot. Does this signal a shift in focus for hackers looking for a new playground? I would imagine that they will shift thier focuse to Vista now.
]]>Feb 3rd 2007 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/Windows has a large attack surface because it is the big user base with more stupid users. That's why you have to have protection. You need to have a certain level of intelligence, another reason there are so few Mac users.
Seriously Bill, don't dare people to do this, you know your gonna have to sit your software engineers down and follow that post so they can release those patches faster than Michael Jackson cum from little boys.]]>Feb 3rd 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/010807/PLEX_7264.pdf]]>Feb 3rd 2007 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.macrumors.com/2006/06/01/mac-market-share-update/

Month of Apple Bugs
http://projects.info-pull.com/moab/

A note to apple, if you build a computer for idiots, only idiots will buy them. The market share and world wide use of Windows says it all. As for security, its up to the user not the system. "I downloaded this email picture from some guy I don't know because it was in my email..."]]>Feb 3rd 2007 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
so who's the real idiot??]]>Feb 4th 2007 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
That being said:
for all of you who don't keep current on this type of stuff, a shitload of OSX exploits have been made public as of late.
Although most of them may be stupid DOS POC's, theres still ALOT of priv escalation and REMOTE code execution exploits that have really been popping up (publically) lately. I really wonder how many private ones havent gotten released/leaked yet.]]>Feb 3rd 2007 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/
Sorry, I look at the compromised machines that are network filter lists on the campus I work at and I see no non-Windows machines on that list. We are talking dozens of compromised machines and not one is running a non-Windows OS. Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 are all on that list... but no Mac, Solaris or Linux boxes.

I wonder why?]]>Feb 3rd 2007 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/]]>Feb 3rd 2007 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xxiii-gates-security-guys-break-the/http://blogs.technet.com/security/

To think that apple (or any other software vendor) does a better job than MS when it comes to designing, building, testing, fielding (including end user education) and updating software one needs to believe that there's an order of magnitude difference in the quality and/or numbers of people doing this work on a particular product, and that everyone else has invested the billions that MS has on security over the last five to ten years since they became "target number 1" for the 15-minutes-of-fame team-acne. Hard to believe this is the case. If MS turns out to be a less attractive target one of these days, I fear we'll see even larger business losses due to the lack of investment and security discipline by the secondary vendors including, orcl, adbe, ibm, appl, csco, goog, etc. MS has at least demonstrated the ability to survive while under continuous attack. Will the others be so fortunate when MS becomes a less attractive target? i.e. when the ROI in compromising users of an "all ms" environment is much less than other proven vulnerable targets, like a Mac. Especially systems where they find it impossible to correct/update all shipping versions simultanously.

I can see it now.. Headlines: "MS unfair to competition, too secure, too much of a head start investing billions in secure development training, tools and practices. MS has an unfair advantage because they have cornered the market in (home-grown) security expertise in their market segment because trustworthy computing as a continuous improvement discipline is currently not taught in any school." "The European Union today demanded that MS divest itself of its security teams."]]>Feb 3rd 2007 11:18PM