http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/ Engadget Comments for WiFi Liberator beams pay-per-use access to others gratis http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
I even wrote to the Mayor of London about subsidising WiFi. Here in London, school kids (=< 16) get free bus travel. And then they have fruit vouchers to encourage healthy eating. I don't see why WiMax shouldn't be subsidised, either for school children and university students, or for everyone (although the latter is unlikely). It's the most valuable education resource.

So whilst I agree that access to the internet should be free, I don't agree with this, which, if I understand it, just creates an open network and uses ICS to give them all internet access.

Karl]]>Feb 4th 2007 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/This has to be used with a PAY account. The person paying can then redirect others with this device and give them free access. Likewise they could just enable ppl to surf via their OsX network control panel.

This is just plain stupid.]]>Feb 4th 2007 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
Or, to have fun, you could do something like this: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html]]>Feb 4th 2007 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/RTFA

I suggest you do the same, the Wifi Liberator uses pingtunnel to bypass pay-per-use WiFi for the initial connection which can be shared with others. :-)]]>Feb 4th 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
Even better, you could steal from the rich at the same time by setting up an evil twin node which leeches passwords and account names while redirecting others internet.

Do we really need this? I think not.]]>Feb 4th 2007 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
the blur is especially diabolical (and funny!)
thanks]]>Feb 4th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Children need to learn that there is not a single thing on this planet that is free. There is a cost, there is a charge somewhere along the line. And the ISP's of the world are no different. Some dinky ass cafe downtown is paying an ISP to provide service to their customers. Its designed to bring in paying customers wich is intended to not only cover the cost of that connection but also make them more money. (As if this is a bad thing.) That being said I would have no qualms about using such a service for a quicky 3 minute check of the e-mail but if I'm going to sit and siphon off of their connection I sure as hell am going to buy something.
People need to stop being cheap assed.]]>Feb 4th 2007 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/Feb 4th 2007 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
You knew what I meant. I meant there is no up front cost. When you go to the public park do you pay a cost to walk on the grass, slide down the slide, have a picnic, have sex with your wife or someone else's wife, drink your kool-aid? No the hell you don't. There is no sign saying "Want Entry? Pay now!". When you want to access the internet there is an upfront cost. Your ISP basically says pay or you can't access the net. So STFU. ]]>Feb 4th 2007 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
Also, purchasing an account and then "sharing" it with everyone is asinine anyways. It would be like only paying for one person to eat at a buffet when there was really four people. Sure, you could make it look like only one person was taking food but it's wrong and you're still a jackass.

My two cents.]]>Feb 4th 2007 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/04/wifi-liberator-beams-pay-per-use-access-to-others-gratis/
ISP wants you to pay for access to the internet because of the bandwidth provided. Parks are free to access, but many of us may need to pay to access. I am in London, UK. If I want to visit Central Park in New York you think BA would allow me to fly there for free?

What an idiot.]]>Feb 4th 2007 8:26PM