http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/ Engadget Comments for Novell could be banned from Linux sales after dirty M$ dealings http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/05/181235]]>Feb 6th 2007 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish]]>Feb 6th 2007 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/05/181235

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/06/1644218.shtml]]>Feb 6th 2007 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 6th 2007 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 6th 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
and since when is criticizing a crappy product "bashing"? if MS started doing really cool things then maybe they wouldn't be hounded so much, or if they started making their stuff easier to use instead of more complex and with consumer punishing DRM. only DRM apple has is in iTunes, and Stevie would love to get rid of even that.]]>Feb 6th 2007 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
Really, Engadget. Why are you turning into slashdot?]]>Feb 6th 2007 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
I agree; it's getting out of hand.]]>Feb 6th 2007 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
Let's try and keep this site neutral and balanced rather than throwing in unnecessary bashes and rants that - in this case - aren't even true.

And Chris; Mr. Gates already bashed DRM over a month ago. But no, Microsoft is the devil and can only do wrong.]]>Feb 6th 2007 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 6th 2007 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 6th 2007 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
Frankly engadget's game is obvious. It's lazy but it's a popularity game and much of the media plays it. Apple fans are incredibly vocal and persistent and the media gets immediate gratification by pandering to them. Want to see real unfettered bias look at Wired.com.

They have a regular 'Cult of Mac' column and a recent article entitled 'Why Apple Makes me Cry" is fairly typical. Their main page regualrly has literally had 6 or 8 Apple articles at once. And right now they have an article up entitled "Gallery: Blue Screen of Death" in their own words "In honor of Vista's release"


They claim to be tech news but they look more like the Apple newsletter.]]>Feb 7th 2007 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
And frankly what shitty deal? I can buy a pretty decent computer for 500 bucks with Windows preinstalled. And nothing prevents me from throwing on the very same version of Linux that Mac fans are so turgid for and yet too clueless to realize that they were the last people to get. Yes I was using the OS on a PC before it was ever on a Mac.

If the hand is so shitty... do I even have to ask the obvious? As an glassy eyed Apple fan you've heard it in response to every tired wingnut post you've ever written... why do so many people opt for it. That's really the underlying issue in every Apple fans posts. Insecurity.

Give YOU something new or get out of the ballgame? Who are you Yogi Berra? And who are you trying to convince, yourself? You wouldn't buy the cure for cancer from MS if it cost a nickel. Don't like it don't buy it NO ONE IS FORCING YOU and frankly no one will care.]]>Feb 7th 2007 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
engadget_credibility--;
]]>Feb 7th 2007 2:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/The FSF is working on GPLv3, which would ban such deals, but thanks to the GPLv3's anti-DRM stance and other restrictions, Linux being moved to that license is quite unlikely. GPLv3 is also in its early infancy at the moment, so such Novell-impacting conjectures were especially irresponsible. Thanks Adam for the heads up.
"

Sadly....ALSO WRONG. ;)

The people who say, "Linux is _just a kernel_" are right. The FSF has the copyright to the whole GNU toolchain which every Linux desktop environment relies on. Also, GNOME will be GPL3 because IIRC, it copyright assigns to the FSF.

So if these projects switch

"thanks to the GPLv3's anti-DRM stance and other restrictions, L
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Oh, this is wrong too. Firstly, Linux took out the "or any later version of this license" clause many releases ago. So every person who has copyright in the Linux kernel would have to be asked to relicense his code to GPL3. They do not copyright assign, unlike some other free software projects.

Some Linux kernel developer (ahem, employed by companies with certain vested interests, cough) put out an open letter attacking the GPL3 that was pretty much baseless. ]]>Feb 7th 2007 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/
It's funny I abandoned Gizmodo when they devoted an entire day to Apple's mouse and it looks every day like Engadget is following them down the rathole.



"Really, Engadget. Why are you turning into slashdot?"

"Seems all of the sudden the site has turned into a Microsoft bashing, Apple lauding freakfest."

"Frankly engadget's game is obvious. It's lazy but it's a popularity game"

"So Engadget is actually using the term "M$" in its article titles now? That's a shame."]]>Feb 7th 2007 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 7th 2007 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/1. You have to survive through advertising.
2. To survive through advertising you have to be able to brag about the number of hits on your site.
3. To get enough hits to brag about you have to be:
A. Very informative and engaging. This is hard work and requires talented informed writers.
or
B. Biased and pandering with a dash of controversial opinionated inacuracy. This is lazy but easy because you get the vocal minority and you generate and feed arguments. But hits are hits even if people are correcting and cursing you.

With limited advertising dollars on the web most blogs opt for B.]]>Feb 7th 2007 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 7th 2007 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/Feb 7th 2007 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/06/novell-could-be-banned-from-linux-sales-after-dirty-m-dealings/]]>Feb 8th 2007 11:54AM