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Would that supposed date happen to be April 1st by any chance?]]>Jun 24th 2007 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
I just bought my XBOX360. Damn if this is true.]]>Feb 8th 2007 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Of course - this would be an admission that their first crack at 360 was not exactly a next gen console (what? no HDMI?). And I'm sure as hell happy I did not pick up a 360 for x-mas with the REAL 360 next gen finally seeing the light of day (again - assuming this is is true).

Oh - to the 'upgrades happen all the time in the console world crows' - usually they involve cost cutting - not completely changing the specs of the thing.

Michael]]>Feb 8th 2007 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
HDMI is merely only a connection that is used for video, which includes HD content.

How does having or not having HDMI correlates to real next gen or not exactly? While HDMI is probably going to be the connection that we will be using for a long time, that does not mean that DVI or even component is dead. Both still work perfectly and do the job that they need to do in the realm of HD. In fact, you won't find a TV with only HDMI inputs for this very reason.

Don't try to put the whole, because it is digital spin either. That is just a silly claim, it being digital doesn't do a thing. I have seen sourced material from component that has looked better than HDMI and of course, the other way around. Just because it is in the digital domain doesn't mean it is better. There are so many other factors that come into play other than the connection type itself.

Point being, the Xbox 360 with or with out HDMI, is still a next gen console. Not having HDMI does not mean anything other than that, it doesn't have HDMI, which is just another connection used for HD.]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Your assertion that HDMI makes or breaks the 360 next-gen claim is moronic.]]>Feb 8th 2007 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Cool, maybe I will pick one up now. I can place this right next to my Wii and PS3.

Funny how MS is changing the color to black. HAHAHA. Just like the PS3. ]]>Feb 8th 2007 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 9th 2007 8:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 11th 2007 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
only really really worthwhile new future that would temp me to upgrade is if they get this thing silent, man i hate the noise it makes its like having a boeing under your tv]]>Feb 8th 2007 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/XCM-X3BK.html]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
$584 for a 360 with HDMI, 120 HDD, and black paint.

$599 for a PS3 with HDMI, upgradeable 60 gb HDD, wirelsess networking, Hi-def movie player, and (sarcasm) black paint shiny trim

MS could have at least made the 360s specs match the PS3s at that price to make this a semi-tough decision for a consumer.

You could justify that purchase now by saying that the 360 has better games, but by April the PS3 is slated to have what look to be some killer games on the market, which wipes out that advantage. I just don't get why MS would even bother with this? ]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
However if you still think PS3 is still the top dog system and company. Look at the sales numbers of the consoles and you'll find Sony in DEAD LAST, by a HUGE margin. No rumble = shit gameplay. Uncomfortable L2 and R2 buttons = shit design.

goodbye~]]>Feb 12th 2007 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
- The new DVD drive that is quieter
- The new 65nm processor (and subsequent smaller power brick and quieter fans)
- Said black color
- Said 120GB hard drive

For the same price (or very slightly more) that would be an excellent deal, and a good way to undercut Sony. If it doesn't include all those changes, it isn't worth it.]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/How about in a year when HDCP kicks in and the only way to get TRUE and FULL HD quality is through HDMI. Then what good will you HD DVD add on be?]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
I have not seen 1080p display playing back 1080p content from a 1080p source through components connections - in 1080p resolution (as opposed to downscaledsomewhere along the path). Come to think of it - short of professional gear that's been capable of 1080p for a while - I'm not sure there actually are consumer level devices +content out there that could be pulled together to achieve such a feat.

Even if it can be done - we could argue all day about whether 1080p source played back on 1080p device and output on 1080p display looks better on HDMI or component. But it's the sort of thing that's rather hard to resolve over text messages...

BTW - modern TVs have component inputs not because they are superior but for backwards compatibility.

Michael]]>Feb 8th 2007 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 28th 2007 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
One thing is to get the newest, powerful gadget, and another is to just be fooled and get something that isn't worth its price.

Stop sleeping at the M$ mansion, all xbots are trying to do is get a night in bed with master chief :)]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Thanks for playing the informed fanboy game!]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Maybe delayed till April so they can get the new cheaper, cooler 65nm processor in there too?
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The black 360's are dev units, if you watch any game shows i.e 1upshow or on the spot you can see these units running demos ect]]>Feb 8th 2007 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
Here in the UK, the PS3 is £425 ($832) - is it $832 in the US? Not quite.

MS may add an increase onto the increased spec (although i suspect not, to further undercut Sony), but it certainly won't be massive.]]>Feb 8th 2007 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
When they're ready for a price break, they should offer two SKUs:
$299.99- incl 20GB to 40GB hdd, wired controller, HDMI
$499.99- incl 120GB, wireless controller, internal HD-DVD, HDMI]]>Feb 8th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/]]>Feb 8th 2007 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/hardware/wheretobuy/

I don't think those prices are right...where you refering to those? now...how much would the "new" 360 be in AU?

Thanks :)]]>Feb 8th 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/If it includes:

- "The new DVD drive that is quieter" -- I say not only quieter, SILENT damn it!!!! and preferably an internal HD-DVD drive)
- The new 65nm processor (and subsequent smaller power brick and quieter fans)
- Said black color
- Said 120GB hard drive -- I'd prefer 250 gigs for the same price
Also I would add:
- Slot loading drive rather than filmsy, cheap looking tray
- HDMI while maintaining ability to output optical audio directly to a receiver and option for component. While HDMI is needed on the 360, it shouldn't come at the expense of analog component outputs. Not everyone has HDMI yet, and I think HDMI is way overrated (not as good picture quality and why the hell would you want surround audio going to your TV first. HDMI capable receivers cost too much right now.
- And finally and most important: GIGABIT Ethernet damn it!!!!
]]>Feb 8th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/"HDMI doesn't mean anything?
How about in a year when HDCP kicks in and the only way to get TRUE and FULL HD quality is through HDMI. Then what good will you HD DVD add on be?"

You really need to check your facts before shouting off a load of bollocks that you havent researched, HDCP has been sidelined for at least 5 years if not more with the majoity of electronic and film companies backing the delay, so no we dont need hdmi for our 360 add-on....]]>Feb 8th 2007 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/I used monster high quality composite cable and has up to 1080p. In order to have 5.1 sound, you still will need an optical cable. I mean, is there really that much of a difference, if you use good quality cables, between composite and HDMI?
On the 120 GB I totally agree though, 20 GB get filled in an second.]]>Feb 8th 2007 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
You might want to change your comment...

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html]]>Feb 8th 2007 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/I didn't know that Oblivion was going to be released for PS3.
Still, let's not forget that it is going to be released 1 year after it was released for the Xbox 360, so it makes some sense
that they improved the game a bit. In any case, if we look at the multiplatform games released so far for both
xbox 360 and PS3 look who has better games.... and don't take my word for it, look at this article.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?q=graphics%20comparison
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"What's the big deal with HDMI? I mean, C'mon! The xbox 360 is still a next gen console with or without HDMI and in many ways, it is still a much more powerful machine than the PS3. I am still waiting to see any PS3 game that is better than Gears of War, Oblivion or Dead Rising."

You might want to change your comment...

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html ]]>Feb 8th 2007 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/
So, it sounds like they added code to the PS3 release that makes it look better. This has nothing to do with the hardware of the PS3 but how the software is written. This same "fix" could possibly be used with the 360 version to improve visuals.

Anytime an existing game is ported to a different platform, improvements are made over the existing version.

Not a good arguement for the comments made by Javier, IMO.]]>Feb 8th 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/black-xbox-360-with-120gb-hdd-and-hdmi-due-for-april/Feb 8th 2007 8:08PM