http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/ Engadget Comments for Skype to FCC: open up those cellular networks, please http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
Just in case you missed it, here is Professor Wu's paper about how crooked the Mobile providers are:

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/02/21/professor-singles-out-mobile-carriers-for-stifling-cellphone-inn/
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Perhaps Skype would be best to make a client for more than just Windows Mobile and move on to Symbian and Palm users as well before making a fuss about it.

The current number of users trying to Skype over a phone is very limited to one OS, provide the serivce before complaining.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
I want a SIM card with an IP number and either big blocks of data, or unlimited data.

Let me choose who provides my telephone number(s) and the services that go with it.

I'm so sick of mobile providers thinking they can charge for services that cost them nothing, like call display or voicemail.

Imagine if your cable company told you you could only buy the TVs they offered, and locked them from being used with any other service. Imagine if they charged you different amounts for the times of day you watched tv. ]]>Feb 22nd 2007 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
Mobile providers spend BILLIONS building their network for their service....if you don't like it then fortunately you are free to cancel...stop whining.

Boo hoo I have to use an AT&T number on my AT&T network plan, I believe you people just bitch for the sake of bitching, go build you a wireless network and let everyone have free reign while you make no profit but leave making money to the people who want to make money.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
As long as you are with a GSM carrier you are pretty much free to choose your own hardware.

I get your point, but your cable company - say COX just for example - also does not let you subscribe to Time Warner Cable and use their network.

As good as it would be for the big networks to go 100% Internet protocol and sell exclusively blocks of data which the end user was free to do with as they please, I don't think that the Wireless networks are looking to become Internet service providers just so that people can use Skype all they want without having to take out a second mortgage on their house to cover the data costs charged by the networks.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://blog.nextblitz.com/blog/2007/02/openmoko_open_s.html]]>Feb 22nd 2007 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 23rd 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/]]>Feb 22nd 2007 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
What are you smoking? "Mobile providers spend BILLIONS building their network for their service....if you don't like it then fortunately you are free to cancel...stop whining."

"providers spend BILLIONS building their network" - mostly by spending inordinate amounts on spectrum licenses because they're busy trying to outspend each other. It's called the winner's curse, and I certainly don't have to pay for it. Of course, where do you think they got the billions in the first place?

"free to cancel" - precisely the problem - there's an ETF. Hardly what you would call free market competition and certainly not as you say "free".
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You are entirely free to cancel, just pay back the money you saved by getting a subsidized phone.

Fact is you chose to get a phone, as well as which carrier you went with.

Talk about locking their customers out, what about Skype not allowing SIP? Atleast with GSM I get to pick my equipment, with Skype you are limited to proprietary protocols and have to pay for what is "Skype Compatible"

Look in the mirror and before trying to clean up the neighborhood, start with your own house Skype.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
In any event, the FCC should open up the cells, but, there needs to be a way of tracking the calls, I would guess. Also, maybe a deal where skype is only used in off-peak times.. whtever who knows!]]>Feb 22nd 2007 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
However, I can take a Verizon phone, sitting next to me, to Korea, and have it up on one of their networks, pretty fast. Or China. Or Taiwan. Or maybe Alltel here. (They used to allow foreign ESN's on their network. Don't know if they still do.)

So, in fact, you are the idiot. Not me.

However, Cingular and others lock their phones, so you have to pay for unlocking codes, or send your phone off to some shady website sometimes...]]>Feb 22nd 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/You are a fucking tool, I work for AT&T in the Subsidy unlock department UNLOCKING PHONES FOR FREE!

Granted there are criteria you have to meet but the only time we ask for money is when you are past due, which is a requirement.

Go talk shit somewhere else and pull facts out of your ass.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 23rd 2007 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
I have, for a fact, sold both Sprint and Verizon phones to people in Taiwan and Korea...And they went to their providers, and hooked them up fine...

The only locks for CDMA phones are when they are reported stolen...]]>Feb 22nd 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/While it may have fallen off the bills in the last couple years, the last time I checked, you could still find a tone-dial fee on your phone bill if you looked. I thought it was idiocy, but it turns out you can save a few cents on your bill each month by having it turned off. I found this out at a second job where the owner was so cheap he did this.

Caller-Id will be the same way. It'll become a service that the phone companies assume you want, and you'll have to explicitly turn it off if you don't. They won't stop charging you for it until you tell them to turn it off, though.]]>Feb 22nd 2007 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
I'm just saying, I've never dealt with it.

And, look, AT&T...A...GSM CELLULAR COMPANY!]]>Feb 22nd 2007 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
"Cingular and others lock their phones, so you have to pay for unlocking codes, or send your phone off to some shady website sometimes..."]]>Feb 22nd 2007 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 22nd 2007 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
I’m a happy customer (also got Skype-Out) SO WHY START BEEF WHEN THERE IS NONE? Ohhh I forgot, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!]]>Feb 22nd 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.cellphoner.net!]]>Feb 22nd 2007 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
Shopping for a new phone #/carrier is as easy as buying a carton of milk. You even get to choose your number.

We pay full price for phones, but I like the transparency. You pay full price in the US too except the costs are hidden in rip-off plans and chain you to a provider for 2 years... nothing's for free.

What I don't understand is that there isn't even the option in the U.S. to do this. Customer choice? Not in the cell phone market. ]]>Feb 22nd 2007 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/Feb 23rd 2007 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/22/skype-to-fcc-open-up-those-cellular-networks-please/
They will take the wireless industry by storm with this type of billing, yearly billing]]>Mar 12th 2007 9:58AM