http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/ Engadget Comments for Windows Vista "Brute Force Keygen" a hoax http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
I've been following this out of interest (have a legit Vista that I have yet to install) and Computer User just strikes me as some scared kid from reading his comments on the KezNews forums. He is flip-flopping like the best of the politicians. One moment he says it works, then he issues an "apology to MS", then he says it doesn't work and he's done with it, then he contributes new code, then back to saying he's done with it again, and so on and so on.

Quite frankly, it's quite idiotic and it fits in with most of the members of that forum who continue to scream like irate, spoiled children when no one will help them or give them a key. I don't know where the sense of entitlement comes from but it's extremely annoying to see the pathetic temper tantrums they throw.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 3rd 2007 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 5th 2007 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 3rd 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
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said it worked for him so people talk to him because he lives in that channel so he is always there.

I think the guy said that so Microsoft can get off his ass.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 3rd 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 3rd 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
As for the apology, he was saying he regretted causing MS trouble and that he never intended to cause such a fuss over his little experiment. He's also sorry that the valid keys that this method generates may overlap with legitimate owner's CD keys and cause them problems. He says he doesn't have a grudge against Microsoft at all, and enjoys their software (otherwise, why on earth would he be using it?). Is that so hard to understand?


And last of all, this is not a real keygen at all. All he did was modify an EXISTING script to automatically try random sequences. That's it. And he says so himself. He admits that he's not a cracker at all, and he was just playing with a VBScript file. That's it.


Also, please think back to when XP came out. The majority of pirated users ran one version with one license key, but eventually (SP1) that got blacklisted. BUT, brute force methods (like this) were also available for XP, and worked just fine (assuming you don't mind having your PC using 100% CPU for N hours, where N equals a number between 1 and infinity).]]>Mar 3rd 2007 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 6th 2007 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
I sincerely think most anti-Microsoft posts are typed on Windows running IE.]]>Mar 4th 2007 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 3rd 2007 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
If a journalist is found to be lying, they've basically squandered the most important part of their professional character: their integrity.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
There are conceptually three kinds of keys.

The first kind is the incorrect kind (duh). Vista won't let you install with this key.
The second kind is the "looks right" kind. Vista will let you install with this key, but won't let you activate Vista (unless it's also "real").
The third kind is the "real" kind. Vista will not only install, but also activate, with this kind of key.

(These ignore the cases of OEM licensing keys and corporate keys, just pretend those don't exist for now.)

Now, if you've read the back of the box of Vista you'll notice that you get 120 days to activate. _Plus_, should you not have your key, you can install a trial version which works for 120 days. So the second kind of key is functionally identical to just installing the trial version.

Why does Vista even bother to validate the key during install? It has nothing to do with preventing pirated use, it's purely to prevent typos when users input their key! It's a huge pain to undo when a user accidentally inputs an incorrect key, it pretty much always generates a customer service call, and a single customer service call is enough for Microsoft to lose money on an OEM copy of Vista.

So yeah, the keygen works to get past the Vista install. No, it's nothing relevant or worrisome to Microsoft. (Heck, they're almost certainly quite happy about it; everyone who uses this method will have to either buy Vista in 120 days or uninstall it. It's word-of-mouth advertising for trial versions of Vista!)

Can we all just get over it now?]]>Mar 3rd 2007 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Why hack Vista when you can just use Linux?

If you need any help figuring Linux out or getting it working for you, whatever:
ethana2@gmail.com

I'd be more than happy to help you ]]>Mar 3rd 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36x36

which =8.08e32

so finding one code is about a chance in 1/80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

or the scientific express
1/HELL

so if MS released 1,000,000 codes your chances would still be slim to none!!!

so yeah that keygen might work but i wouldn't hold my breath.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
Still quite big, but considering the speed of modern computers, the list could be generated in a few weeks to maybe a month. Much less with a good cluster.

By list: A list of every possible combination, so that anyone could just plug those in rather than generating them, and speed up the process severely.


While possible, I also don't advocate piracy. If your willing to go through the trouble and effort to do this, why don't you just use Linux, get passed whatever minor issues exist, and be happy with a stable system.]]>Mar 4th 2007 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
If he did indeed scam us, he did it good. With no real consequences apart from having lost a little productivity with taking a lot of juice from our PCs.

I did try it, I was fascinated with the coding as I also code in VB. Was fun experiencing this script with the guys out there.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
I think CU's statement was a good idea, cause now all you freaking noobs who just wanted a keygen will piss off. This project is about doing something within the constricts of the OS, not just abt getting a free vista.]]>Mar 3rd 2007 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/So, cryptography, no… That is brute force. Nothing to do with a cryptography lesson, lol. A cryptography lesson would best be explained using a time-memory tradeoff paper. Maybe a sort lesson in reverse engineering. Refs: http://lasecwww.epfl.ch/pub/lasec/doc/Oech03.pdf
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http://www.WindowsVistaUserGuide.com]]>Mar 3rd 2007 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
It's not a case that Microsoft aren't making progress, it's just that their progress isn't meeting a lot of people's demands. And the price is pretty high.


*NIX flavours are in general very capable, but they're not easy and they do require significantly more work. There's been a lot of progress in the past few years in simplified Linux distros, but if you want to customise them beyond adding and removing "supported" programs you need to learn to work in console/command line. Not everybody has the patience to learn a new system when they've already mastered an existing, more common, and in some cases more functional (at least when it comes to ready-made solutions) option available to them.

Out of Windows, Linux and Mac I'd have to put Linux at as my second choice. It has power, stability and functionality surpassing Windows and Mac, if you're ready to put the time into it. Windows is slow and less stable and unreliable and can be prone to security lapses (because everybody and their dog are trying to find them), but once you're online it can do anything you want with a few clicks and a credit card number. Mac is easy, reliable, and *runs Windows*... Need I say more?]]>Mar 4th 2007 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://digg.com/microsoft/Vista_cracked_totally_by_Paradox_Microsoft_s_in_trouble_now]]>Mar 4th 2007 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
Why does anybody care? People with any sense should be trying to figure out how to avoid the necessity of an upgrade to the "latest and greatest" piece of Microsoft kitchen-sinkware.

What is kitchen-sinkware? That's my name for what is more prosaically called "bloatware" - software where usability is sacrificed on the altar of hyperinflated feature sets.

You recall the saying "everything but the kitchen sink"?

The product development cycle goes like this. First a piece of software is developed that does a moderately good job at some useful function. Then a new release comes out, fixing bugs and including useful features the original developers overlooked. At this point, the software is workable and customers are satisified.

But satisfied customers are unprofitable customers. Satisfied customers generate no new sales - because software doesn't wear out.

So in the next development cycle it is necessary to turn satisfied customers into dissatisfied customers. This is about the point where version numbers began to give way to model year designations, as Redmond shamelessly copies the tactics that have worked for Detroit for the last 50 years. At this point, true feature bloat begins. Either here, or in the next cycle the developers throw in "everything but the kitchen sink".

But this process is ongoing - the economic imperatives trap a company such as Microsoft on the bloatware merry-go-round. The next cycle actually INCLUDES THE KITCHEN SINK!

But we're not done yet. Further cycles ensue. More of the household plumbing is added to the mix. Eventually, they get around to throwing in the outhouse, and at that point the whole thing begins to stink.

Vista - no thanks!

-Steve]]>Mar 4th 2007 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 4th 2007 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
This wont last long. Nice while it lasts though, and definitly a step in the right direction.]]>Mar 4th 2007 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/Mar 6th 2007 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/windows-vista-brute-force-keygen-a-hoax/
ders one dun by dr chan, lol hes amazin, vista onli been out 4 a few months n luk wots apend, fuk mr gates, hes rich nuf, he cant apreciate wot hes got, no1ns gona bova sayin sori 2 ms, ]]>Apr 23rd 2007 11:24AM