http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/ Engadget Comments for Warner Bros., Universal, and DCIP to make digital cinema a reality http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 10th 2007 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
I've seen a few digital movies - bring em on!

For me it will be like getting spoiled by HD. I can't watch regular broadcast anymore. (except Battlestar Galactica]]>Mar 6th 2007 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
My only concern is that by the time they get this up and running 4k res will be old news and we will have far greater capabilities.




Zach]]>Mar 6th 2007 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema#Digital_projection.

I don't think a 2160p standard is coming out anytime soon for the home theater, but I'd like to see how crisp a 4K movie is!]]>Mar 6th 2007 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.dlp.com/dlp_cinema/dlp_cinema_theater_search.asp]]>Mar 6th 2007 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Movies in 2K are far superior to their 35mm film counterparts and the only benefit of 4K is that you can add an extra row of seats at the front of the theatre... but who likes sitting at the front anyway?
The extra costs of distributing a 4K film instead of a 2K film remove some of the advantages of going digital in the first place.
Lastly - it's happening now.... not in 5 years time. Deployment of digital is rolling out fast all over the world.... USA, Europe and Asia. China has just signed a deal for 700 screens to go over...
http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/pressreleases/show.asp?index=1890]]>Mar 6th 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
they give state of the ART computer animation on 1960's projectors! WTF!??!?!?!?!]]>Mar 7th 2007 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 6th 2007 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
As much as you hate Sony, the 4k resoulution wasn't developed to delay the TI DLP technology.
The TI technology was established and deployed before Sony announced 4k digital cinema. Sony is also actually shipping 4k projecters so it's not a 'vapor' FUD product.

I'd imagine that Sony was releasing digital projectors and wanted to provide a marketly better product. In some way they have suceeded and in some ways they haven't. The cristie is still the biggest install base.

The real boon for Sony was the ability to use the same chips design from the digital cinema line in the Home theatre projectors. There is a reason that the Sony home theatre projectors are among the highest ranked.


Also needless to say this article is quite dated.

Digital cinema is actually here and deployed now. For now they simply swap large raids.

Without better compression or MUCH bigger internet pipes or pushing movies to theatres will take to damn long. Movies are around 1-2 TB uncompressed and I'd guess 300-500 GB compressed at resolution.

That would be one HELL of a torrent seed.
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Film has a wider colour gamut.
Film has more contrast.
Don't believe me? look it up.

Dust and scratches are the product of bad projectionists - go somewhere where they do it right. At this moment, good projection of a good film print beats digital projection hands down.

I also don't understand why there's this big worry that pirating is coming from people who handle the prints... unless you're talking about garbage videotaping of the screen from the projection booth (ugh). I've never heard of someone taking an entire film print down to the ol' spirit telecine and making a scan... it's not practical or cost effective.

start talking about real d-cinema when we actually are using cameras on set that shoot 2k or 4k, and the signal stays digital all the way through. Until then, 35mm is still where its at.]]>Mar 6th 2007 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 21st 2008 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?enddate=1169980400 . Unless I misunderstand your statement, telecline's, while rare, have been pirates for many many years now.]]>Mar 7th 2007 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 7th 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.dcimovies.com/

From the information there most movies will be around 500 GB.
]]>Mar 7th 2007 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
here is my favorite article on the subject

http://www.geocities.com/outlawvern/digitalprojection.html]]>Mar 6th 2007 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 7th 2007 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
Was that an intended pun (real/reel)??]]>Mar 7th 2007 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 7th 2007 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 7th 2007 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Speaking of which, I went to ShoEast this year and there were about 6 Digital projectors being shocased for every ONE 35mm projector. The problem was that there were absolutely no established standards. There was 3LCD, DLP, SXRD and every resolution listed above. Until these people can come to a consensus, digital rollout is going to be slow to come.

Ben - In reply to your coment about color on film vs. video, you are quite correct...when it comes to acquisition. To date, I don't know of a single camera that can capture the full color range of 35mm. Some of the projectors, however, can beautifully reproduce the full dynamic color range of film (Kodak's own digital projector comes to mind). To that end, the best viewing experience would come from a movie shot on film (70mm, for the VERY best) and projected digitally (with the right projector). As far as contrast, the problem with film is that, if you hold a completely black frame up to a normal light, you can see that light right through it. When you focus a 4200w light through there, you simply can't project a true black with film because there is always SOME amount of light hitting the screen. Digital formats like DLP and SXRD avoid this by tilting the mirrors away from the screen depending on the level of darkness for that area. So, with the right projector, digital can actually beat 35mm in contrast.

As far as any pirating concerns involved with digital distribution, it's quite unlikely. All the places I've seen received an encrypted data stream via sattelite, downloaded into and played via a RAID storage system on-site (so no "searching for sattelite signal" messages) using a proprietary codec. And it's all password-protected and heavily regulated so moving them off-server is nearly impossible.]]>Mar 7th 2007 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 7th 2007 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
Even If this saves them money, they WILL raise ticket prices!

And, What more important here? What were seeing or how see it?

Put money in better writers and scripts and stop 'digitaly'polishing turds. ]]>Mar 7th 2007 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/Mar 9th 2007 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
For digital, I admit I have noticed a slight screen door effect if I sit too close, I believe this is due mostly to the 2k resolution, and I would hope that 4k becomes the standard.]]>Mar 7th 2007 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
Maybe someday it will look better than film, but right now it reminds me of sitting too close to the TV.]]>Mar 7th 2007 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
BTW, dust and scratches are not the product of a bad projectionist, its the product of pulling film over around 50 rollers 5 times a day 7 days a week. Also, fading is a major problem, since shining a 3000 watt bulb through film will cause it to fade within 2-3 weeks. None of this happens with digital cinema, let alone you get the digital sound as well, not having to read a sound strip, or use DTS discs which rely on the correct time code.]]>Mar 7th 2007 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
2K will be here to stay, and while I've seen the benefits of 4K resolution myself it is hardly perceptible except when sitting close to the screen or on text. However, color accuracy, contrast ratio, etc are all far superior on the TI DLP projectors thus far, which is why they are being more heavily deployed.

There are well over 2000 digital screens in the US alone (not including EU or AS) so it is not as though this is a completely new technology.

Furthermore, the DCIP/Warner/Uni proposal is not for digital deployment, but rather trying to establish an efficient and practical method of distributing the content. Screen conversion is different from distribution...]]>Mar 7th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
That article you posted was UPDATED in 2002! It's no surprise to anyone reading this site how much technology changes in 5 years...Before you go judging you should either experience it for yourself or at least post a more recent comparison article.

I don't know about other parts of the country but I think many of the Carmike Cinemas have gone digital already in my part of the country]]>Mar 7th 2007 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/warner-bros-universal-and-dcip-to-make-digital-cinema-a-reali/
These other theatre groups are playing catch-up.]]>Mar 12th 2007 12:47PM