http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/ Engadget Comments for Creative cuts the chub from Vision M and Vision W players http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Jul 2nd 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/]]>Mar 12th 2007 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
thank you Creative.]]>Mar 12th 2007 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
Are they waiting until Apple ups the ante before following suit?]]>Mar 12th 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/ ]]>Mar 12th 2007 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
Apple changed their design with the 5th generation iPod with video. Their battery is more "gum-stick" shaped than slab-shaped, and sits at the bottom of the iPod, UNDERNEITH the HDD and screen. The Zune is also designed this way. This design better enables the thinness of the iPod (0.43") and Zune's (0.55") form factor.

Unfortunately, Creative was well underway with the design of the ZVM when the 5G iPod came out, and could not change direction. It also would have been impractical on a manufacturing scale to change course in mid-stream during the past year, and redesign the ZVM after just releasing it. This is why the ZVM has been so thick in comparison. Switching from a double-platter 60GB HDD to a single-platter 60GB HDD does not require any major design changes, and really should've been expected.

Hopefully this switch to the single-platter HDD will not represent the next-generation ZVM, but is only a temporary adjustment, and we will still see the Zen with built-in X-fi technology and the Sigmatel 3600 SoC processor that's been proposed.....]]>Mar 12th 2007 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
I just contacted customer support to see if a swap would be possible. I got him to talk to his product supervisor and even had him go to the press release and translate it. He told me it is strictly a Japanese release, not even where headquarters is. So if it is coming here it will probably be a while. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but I was let down as well. Take care]]>Mar 12th 2007 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
I own a 60gig Ven Vision W. The video is great, then it all falls downhill from there. Gaps in audio track playback, the control pad is hard for normal fingers to navigate, nearly "zero" in car support, cannot list by Album Artist (only track artists, so I have 450 Artists where there should only be about 180, and yes, my Mp3's are well organized), no AC3 support (so there goes about 50% of my Divx titles). Its less than an Ipod. Read the Creative Forums for yourselves.]]>Mar 12th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/ You should've at least pasted the link to that specific forum if you want us to believe you. I'm not sure if you actually own one or just basing your facts on forums, all i can say is, you might also check the iPod forums as well, I'm pretty sure you'll see more negativity there than the ZVM forums. You can check all the unbiased review sites comparing ZVM to iPod. ZVM just hands down beat iPod.I own a ZVM and never had any problem with it since. ]]>Mar 12th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 12th 2007 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/????]]>Mar 12th 2007 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 15th 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Mar 19th 2007 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
Now I want to move on to something that reads Audible files, bookmarks, is elegant in looks and operation and syncs with a computer without a fight. I've seen what appears to be 6 different 30GB models and 60GB models. Some say they are compat. with Audible.com. Some avoid the issue. Most don't mention bookmarking in their ads. So what is it - mainly for Audible.com files and a bookmarking feature. Slim, fat, tall or short. New, old. I want music also. Easy, whether it be a rental service or jpegs that randomly fly out of my computer. Playlists. Cases for W as well as D models? The screen scratches. No it doesn't. Can someone give me an up to date opinion and a site with a good price and only the newest versions.

Thanks.

C]]>Mar 20th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/]]>Apr 18th 2007 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/
"Unfortunately, we do not have a release date for the slimmer version Zen Vision M 60gb. We are expecting to receive this model, but do not expect it for another 2 - 3 months."

I don't know if I want to wait that long. I may just ebay it.]]>Jul 6th 2007 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/12/creative-cuts-the-chub-from-vision-m-and-vision-w-players/Aug 30th 2007 1:59PM