http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/ Engadget Comments for How-to: Upgrade the drive in your Apple TV http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
SDD would work. Also if you hacked up a cable and put it to a desktop-IDE cable end, and had some way to power the drive then you could use a desktop drive... It'd look kinda wonky, but they just released new 1TB drives...]]>Mar 23rd 2007 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0208

but note that the 2.5" side unfortunately won't work on a laptop that does not provide adequate power via USB *cough*PowerbookG4*cough*]]>Mar 23rd 2007 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
you may also consider ddrescue (http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html) which is a bit of a change to regular dd which comes with a decent enough progress indicator by default and a means to try and get at hosed disks in case you ever drop your apple tv.

as far as partioning freely you might use any number of free live cds say for instance one from Ubuntu and use gparted. As a bonus all tools dd, ddrescue, and gparted would likely be found on said live cds.]]>Mar 23rd 2007 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/]]>May 5th 2007 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
From the GNU Parted features page (the library GParted uses):
"Parted can only shrink HFS and HFS+ filesystems."

http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/features.shtml
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
]]>Mar 23rd 2007 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
It will add 'resizeVolume' functionality to diskutil. I've done this before when resizing drives to triple boot my Macbook. I dont recall the exact syntax required, but follow the link below and change it around depending on your drive size.

If this works for anyone let me know :-)

http://www.macgeekery.com/tips/cli/nondestructively_resizing_volumes]]>Mar 23rd 2007 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
I originally bought iPartition for the same reason some time ago, I wanted to remove Boot camp and wasn't able to reclaim all my drive space with diskutil. Other than reformatting the disc of course.

Seems like the same limitation as gparted according to Ignacio.]]>Mar 23rd 2007 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 23rd 2007 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
Not sure what you'd use to change the partition size.]]>Mar 23rd 2007 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
Only trick is finding the proper /dev:

http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html

(in short, /dev/sda = first hard disk, /dev/sdb = second disk, etc.)

Once you figure out the right device, just proceed as in the article above (ie, use the 'dd' command). As always, be careful or you can wipe your main hard drive!]]>Mar 23rd 2007 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
Use the Windows Disk Manager (right-click on My Computer, Manage, Disk Management) to find out the Windows drive number for every attached disk. Then just convert:

Disk 0 -> /dev/sda
Disk 1 -> /dev/sdb
Disk 2 -> /dev/sdc
etc.]]>Mar 23rd 2007 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
Issues :-

(1) Does not stream! (if you have more than 40GB of media on your server - start getting selective!)
(2) Limited video format support (e.g. no DIVX, WMV etc)
(3) No true TV support (no TV streaming, recording, PVR functionality whatsoever)
(4) Limited HD (no 1080p for example)

For the price other greater alternatives exist, however it will still do well due to the Apple name.]]>Mar 24th 2007 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
something like:

sudo gpt show /dev/disk2
sudo gpt remove -i 4 /dev/disk2
sudo gpt add -s 231709543 /dev/disk2

where partition 4 is the media partition and 231709543 is the size of the new partition in sectors.

the disk arbitration daemon keeps wanting to remount the volumes each time the partition table changes, so you need to keep ejecting them between commands.

You then need to format the new partition with journaled HFS+.]]>Mar 27th 2007 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Not sure what is on their other than your Media. I am sure with enough time it could be worked out.

I did try this and the data was still there despite the expanded partition. But because I didn't reformat, the size of the volume was still the same according to OS X.

If you did reformat you could copy the data from the Media directory from the image we created with DD in the first step.
This would take longer since you would have to copy the biggest partition 3 times. (once from source, once to the destination and a third after formating.)

The real trick would be to modify the partition table to recognize the extra space without reformatting after expanding the partition.]]>Mar 24th 2007 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
OK, so that sounds more like flamebait than I had intended, but I'm still not the first to say it: This thing is kinda lame.

Not Engadget's fault, though. Kudos for the haxx0ring skills, I always like to see that kind of stuff.]]>Mar 24th 2007 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Robinator: It does stream. Maybe not from the 'net, but from other machines on the same LAN. (Who wants to watch youtube on an HDTV?)]]>Mar 24th 2007 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
http://www.switchingtomac.com/]]>Mar 24th 2007 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/A) Easy without much use
B) Somewhat useful without ease]]>Mar 24th 2007 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
#2 - does anyone know if there's a ROM upper limit as to the size of the hard drive built in? i know earlier desktop mac g4's from a couple years ago were crippled with only being able to see 128 gb on an ata drive, even if you bought a 250 gb or bigger. does anyone know if such a limit exists here? because it's easy enough to go out and find a 200gb drive for this puppy, but what if the ROM will see no more than 80 gb of it? i know there are software hacks around this sort of thing, but might be more trouble than it is worth on this kind of closed system.]]>Mar 24th 2007 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
Check out this article for the details;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Attachment
(3rd paragraph up from the bottom of "History"

Basically though, if there is going to be an easily attainable size restriction, it will probably be that same 128GB limit.]]>Mar 24th 2007 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
For the image use Norton ghost, for create the image or from a disk to disk copy (be track by track or raw, or other of so many option) and even more easy for the drive resize you would use partition magic or any other partition tool for windows.

Course in this upgrade i would prefer a 7200RPM disk...

Anyway very very cool....

PS . : Norton Ghost & Partition magic has progress indicators...]]>Mar 24th 2007 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/I just wrote a revision, once I test it I will update the post.

I am still trying to figure out a way to test this without having to start over completely and without buying another drive.

]]>Mar 24th 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
I also tried fsck_hfs -f and it doesn't find any problems, but the volume is still the original size despite the new size of the partition which is recognized in Diskutility.

Thanks]]>Mar 25th 2007 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/
First, can you confirm that 128GB is the limit due to the PATA bus so no use putting in any drive bigger than 128GB?

Second, after upgrading the disk, were there any more noise due to more fan use or heat issues?

Third, any hints that Apple will support external USB drive in the next firmware release?

Charles]]>Mar 24th 2007 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 25th 2007 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 25th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/Mar 24th 2007 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/23/how-to-upgrade-the-drive-in-your-apple-tv/I don't know of any limit.

I didn't notice any extra noise with the WD 80GB 5400 rpm drive I used.

No idea, but it is certainly possible.]]>Mar 24th 2007 11:27PM