http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft drops case against FairUse4WM creator Viodentia http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
WTF, dude?!
]]>Apr 6th 2007 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
1 more victory for DRM haters!!!!]]>Apr 6th 2007 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
I believe in being a legitimate consumer of music, and I choose to get some of my music from Napster. I also believe that consumers deserve the best possible experience, and I don't believe wrapping music in DRM provides that, which is why FairUse4WM exists (and hence the name). So, what's the problem?]]>Apr 6th 2007 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
Yep, they were right.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/microsofts-war-waged-with-fairuse4wm/]]>Apr 6th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=mobile_devices&articleId=9015898&taxonomyId=75

"The EMI announcement on Monday was not exclusive to Apple," said Katy Asher, a Microsoft spokeswoman on the Zune team, in an e-mail to the IDG News Service today. She said Microsoft has been talking with EMI and other record labels "for some time now" about offering unprotected music on its Zune players in an effort to meet the needs of its customers"]]>Apr 8th 2007 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/That's the difference bewteen buying a song and getting access to it through subscription.
If you buy the song, then you can strip the DRM and claim to be within fair use rights.
If you got the song through subscription, then you can strip the DRM, but you must throw away the song if you ever cancel the subscription.

You know damn well that 99.9999999% of those that strip DRM away from subscription songs have ZERO intention of throwing those songs away when they cancel their subscriptions. That you refuse to acknowledge this fact is what makes you disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Whether it makes you a hypocrite or not, depends on whether you do throw away your DRM-stripped songs when cancelling the subscription.

(Of course, in order to stay within fair use, one must also refrain from sharing DRM-stripped songs, regardless of whether you bought them or subscribed to them, or even if you bought a DRM-free song (e.g. EMI). This should go without saying, but I include it for the sake of completeness.)]]>Apr 6th 2007 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
It's a trap!]]>Apr 6th 2007 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
Without prejudice means that as soon as they find out who he is, they will REFILE the lawsuit.
I am currently involved in a lawsuit with one of the Microsoft lawyers, Brien Jacobsen.

Do NOT trust Microsoft farther than you can throw one of their big fat ass developers.

Period.]]>Apr 6th 2007 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/
I believe it's fair use to strip the DRM from any song -- now, whether you keep it after you cancel your subscription (if it was a subscription track) is when that fair use gets called into question. Ultimately, though, what people do with tools is their business and responsibility, not mine. But I have no problem advocating any practical and harmless means necessary to ensure the end user has the best possible experience with digital media when they are paying money out of their pocket for its legitimate use.]]>Apr 6th 2007 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 6th 2007 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 7th 2007 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/1. you played stupid and preteneded to not know what the OP of this subthread was talking about when he referred to your (potential) hypocrisy (and playing stupid is one of the cheapest debating tactics that there is)
2. I finally got fed up with your own sanctimonious tone on this issue, whereby you promote the right to strip DRM in the name of fair use but never ever mention your own responsibility to stay within the limits of fair use.

I hate DRM. I advocate Fair Use. But I also hate piracy, and I don't favor advocating freedoms without mentioning the responsibility that goes with it. The saying goes, "With great freedom comes great responsibility". And tacitly promoting the practice of joining a subscription site, downloading thousands of songs, stripping the DRM, then quitting the subscription the next week, is to advocate a practice that would kill off the subscription model altogether, were it done en-masse. I submit that you *tacitly* advocate this because you constantly promote stripping the DRM as fair use, but never ever mention that to stay within fair use one must throw away the songs (and any copies that the user made) when cancelling the subscription. Well, I don't want such a practice to be widely adopted because I don't want the subscription model killed.

I don't know about you, but $1.30 per DRM-free song is absurd. The subscription model, even with DRM, is much more pro-consumer (which you claim to be your highest priority). And even more so with the ability to strip said DRM (again, with the proviso that user throw away the songs when cancelling the subscription). So tacitly advocating practices that would kill the subscription model bugs me.

Your fair use advocacy would have a lot more credibility if you mentioned the limits of fair use as well as the freedoms. Fair use is not a one-way street.

This is the first time that I've ripped into you on this, I would normally just let it go. But your playing dumb when responding to the OP of this subthread prompted me to flame you. :p

Now, in your post, you say, "whether to keep the [DRM-stripped song] after cancelling the subscription is when fair use gets called into question". That's not exactly what one would consider an unequivocal statement. It seems that you actually think that fair use might indeed include the right to keep the DRM-stripped songs (and/or the copies that you made) even after cancelling the subscription. Is that your stance? When you cancel your subscription, do you intend to keep the DRM-stripped songs?]]>Apr 7th 2007 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/ultimately, it may be hard to be taken seriously. ]]>Apr 7th 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 7th 2007 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Apr 10th 2007 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/Nov 14th 2007 12:23AM