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adding colour wouldn't save a player. Ditching the DRM and go with maybe even the PlayforSure DRM would.

oh, guess how many Zunes are sold in Canada? 0! Don't trade the Canadian people like this. those 11 people who actually want one is out in the cold.]]>Apr 7th 2007 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
I dont mind a black zune, but pink is just terrible!]]>Apr 7th 2007 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
;)

BTW...where is my Pink K5 I was promised??? Samsung...MS just kicked your ass.]]>Apr 7th 2007 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/I have a pink DS, and if I could I would've bought my Wii, and XBOX 360 in pink. Then put Hello Kitty stickers on everything.
Nobody is going to steal something that's pink and has a hello kitty sticker on it. They'll think they're stealing from an 11 year old girl.]]>Apr 7th 2007 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
100,000 production run. wow, they actually plan to sell them all? :)
Zune should target a bit more tech-savvy people who know how to network and sharing songs, not pre-teens who loves anything pink.]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
100,000 production run. wow, they actually plan to sell them all? :)
Zune should target a bit more tech-savvy people who know how to network and sharing songs, not pre-teens who love anything pink.]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Engadget reports Zune story. Fill it with the most negative slant possible.

5 out of the first six post are typical fanboys that will:

Wonder why anyone would buy one.

Say that only 4 people would ever get one.

Call it a failure. (The ironic thing is that more people will buy a Zune than an Apple TV, but I can assure you that they will never call the Apple TV a "failure")

Say it is ugly.

Use the word "turd".



In other words they prove how retarded Apple users have become.


]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Did you even READ the Engadget reviews on Apple TV? If you did, you'd remember how they ended off saying that while it's a great product, it's not worth the money they're asking for it.
While the world was off celebrating Apple and EMI's decision to sell DRM-free music, Engadget decided to call it for what it is, with Ryan writing a great piece on how great a marketing strategy it is, and how it's not the saving grace that people were hailing it for.

Before you go flaming, get your facts straight. And if you can't do that, then shut the fuck up and stop reading Engadget. Nobody's forcing you. I'm tired of people bashing Engadget for doing their jobs. ]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Totally different markets. Compare the DAP market to the set top box market. The standards for success and failure are measured on a different scale.

Besides, It's all about WMA for Microsoft. In general they don't like to get into the hardware market. They would much rather create an industry standard and collect license fees. They didn't want to make players in the first place, but their 'plays for sure' system wasn't catching on and they had to act. This is their 2nd attempt to break into the digital audio market and it's slow going. Add to that the fact that a totally DRM-free marketplace could be on the horizon and it doesn't look good for WMA.

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Your post sounds like sour grapes to me.]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Re: features; this has been a complaint about the iPod for a long time. People can't seem to figure out why "Brand [Fill in the blank] MP3 Player" isn't completely dominating the market, even though it has all sorts of features the iPod doesn't. The idea here seems to be that people buy an mp3 player in order to have the most features possible or that that is the primary criteria in a music player.

But realistically, that isn't the case for a lot of people. Sure, as tech geeks who read Engadget, we like the idea of gadgets that do all sorts of cool things, but this isn't necessarily something that applies in the music player market.

What is ultimately important with a music player is that it does a good job of its primary function; playing music. And that comes down to having a good interface for managing music on the player, and for navigating through it and playing it while you're using the player. One of the reasons a lot of people continue buying iPods is because they do like the iPod's interface itself, and the iPod/iTunes integration.

This is something I think that Microsoft did realize when they were doing the Zune, which is why they did change the emphasis to tying everything together into a single hardware/software environment.

I think the fact that there are people like yourself who still do not seem to understand why people keep buying iPods, and think that it is solely because of their popularity, etc. are probably contributing to the problem that other music player manufacturers still haven't been able to really put out a product that really does fundamentally beat it.

But some companies do understand it; Microsoft clearly does. And I think Samsung and Sansa both understand it as well, and have shown it in some of their product updates and focuses.

The big question I think is what Apple has in store for the future. Will the iPod as it currently as continue to evolve from its basic form factor and functionality (scrollwheel-based interface on the iPod and Nano), or will the next iPod borrow the same UI and hardware that we've seen in the iPhone? At this point I'm not sure. But it shows that Apple is continuing to think about these things, rather than just resting on their laurels despite the success of the product they have made, and the so far failure of any company to really put out a product that can really take people's attention away from the iPod.

Honestly that's my biggest problem with the Zune. It's just that so much of it seems to be about "matching" the iPod, rather than creating something that totally blows people away and is a clear revolution over the existing iPod concept. I mean, I was really expecting when Microsoft finally unveiled the Zune, that it would be like a real leap forward in music playing (like what was demonstrated with the music playing aspect of the iPhone a few months later), rather than just a device that fit into the current iPod-way of doing things (right down to Microsoft shutting out other stores and making it all tie into a specific store). ]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
iPod dominates because it is better looking than all the other players, that is it.]]>Apr 8th 2007 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/sorry, couldnt resist....
Ignore me man, love your zune! it is yours, and you must have seen something in it. Afterall, I am yet to see a mom that thinks her son/daughter is ugly or bad! Love covers all imperfections baby! The pink zune will sell over a millions units... yeah!!!!]]>Apr 7th 2007 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/

Yeah! I must be the 1 out of 5.]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Yeah! I must be the 1 out of 5.

I wonder, how many people here who actually HAVE a Zune... hand up!!!

yeah, exactly Bryant.

it's what happened when you deliver a product with DRM that nobody want, in a package that nobody cares for.]]>Apr 7th 2007 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
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Yeah right. More people bought the AppleTV in the first week of release than the Zune. Right now there are about 500,000 geeks trying to figure out how to play doom with the Apple Remote.]]>Apr 7th 2007 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
So no, there aren't 500,000 people that bought an Apple TV. If it was it would have been splashed on the front page of this site, and another site that shall remain nameless, multiple times with many exclamation points.]]>Apr 7th 2007 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
If microsoft had wanted to completely destroy the iPod, the Zune wouldn't be out yet. Microsoft would have worked on it until they were sure it was EXACTLY what they wanted to sell. The Zune team uses ZuneInsider to get feedback on what is working, and what isn't working with their product.

I have my own set of complaints, and things I'd like to see for the future of the Zune, and I know that the Zune team hears them. I have quite a few complaints about the iPod too, but I don't nearly have as many about the Zune.

What I'd like to see happen is people actually use the Zune. Go to Target, find the Kiosk and just use it. As soon as you get past the fact of "Eww it's brown!" and "Oh Em Gee! It's huge!" actually try to use it. After you use it then you can actually post legitimate arguments, rather than "You can spray paint a turd any color you like, but nobody is going to want to put it in their pocket." Then, maybe, I'd actually understand what people don't like about it.

I'm just sick of comments that are not justified, such as "It's a turd". Brown Zune: IT'S A COLOR. Guess what, there are other choices, Get a black or White Zune (or Pink :)) if you don't like it. They are just trying to cater to different tastes.]]>Apr 7th 2007 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
That is easy to do when you have less than 10 percent market share. Just kidding. Seriously though, I do not own an ipod, my default dap is my treo 700wx (microsoft) but I will say this, microsoft missed the mark here... big time. You do not go after a behemoth like the ipod with a product that YOU have to sell its strengths. Its virtues should be apparent from the eyeball test. The zune would have been a great addition to an evenly split or fragmented market. But the way the market was and is Microsoft needed a difference maker. Imagine, the iphone, smaller with a microsoft logo, touchscreen and kick ass interface. Game over! Sadly, we have a fatter ipod wannabe that needs foot soidiers to go to blog sites and scream how nice it is. Face it, the zune is a bad product. Telling us its functions and superhuman strength is old, we have been hearing that from creative and iriver owners for years now, it didnt improve their sales numbers. Microsoft come with it or dont come at all. Heck, I am more likely to buy this Asian knockoff
http://cmt21.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008802695760/pdtl/Flash-MP3/1002896812/11.6mm-Slim-MP3-Player.htm
It has all most of the functions of the zune but not as bulky or ugly.
Ok, lowest rank me you over-sensitive zune owners.... hahaha]]>Apr 7th 2007 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Why?Theres a huge market for people who want pink things.


True, but Pink itself going to make people buy a sub-par product?? even if I'm religiously into one colour (thank god I'm not), I wouldn't go for Zune, gigabeat and even the Archos 404 are MUCH better alternatives to this. (funny, Zune is base on gigabeat design).

drop the DRM, Microsoft, and open up your marketplace. maybe then you will salvage some of the loss and humiliation (fairly or unfairly) suffered with Zune. ]]>Apr 7th 2007 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Sturdy and good sound.

That's really all I look for in a DAP.]]>Apr 7th 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
So according to you, everyone who does not like the Zune is an Apple Fanboy...okay. ]]>Apr 7th 2007 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
And don't doubt that Microsoft will dump enough money into the product to bring it up to a competitive level. Any NPR fan can appreciate the FM radio, for example, and Sansa's Connect is brilliant enough that I wouldn't put it past MS to release something remarkably similar for its flash-based Zune. As for the pink Zune, its attractive and reaches out to a different crowd. Why people take this stuff so personally is beyond me -- if the DRM-free days are truly coming, then maybe this conversation can die a quiet death, or at least get downgraded enough to return to levels of normalcy.

I picked up a Zune in December and love the thing. But that isn't to say MS shouldn't add a video catalog and improve the overall software experience. And Apple should consider regaining FM users who think beyond Top 40 radio.]]>Apr 7th 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Huh? I said I liked the zune. I just dont like the color pink. I hate apple, I hate ipods, and I think the appletv is overhiped. I WANT the zune to succeed. I did NOT call it a failure.]]>Apr 7th 2007 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Umm, who? Which sites?

Apple only releases numbers when they want to, we won't know until they want to. And based on (actually) understanding Apple, past annoucnements and their own understanding that half a million is not significant, they wouldn't release a number unless it was a million.

The AppleTV was the first product to outsell the iPod at Apple for 3 years, and it does so for 4 weeks. It remains a decent seller.

I will predict that it reaches 1 million units before the Zune. It is only a prediction but I do so quite comfortably.

Why? Zune is hoping these 2 colors (presumably both at 100,000) will get them over the hump of their own prediction of 1 million by June. That's, say, ]]>Apr 7th 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Yeah, I've been hearing this PR spin since the day Zune came out. Since when does Microsoft do ANYTHING where the goal isn't to completely decimate the competition? You're either naive, or so beholden to Microsoft that you can't see the forest for the trees.

"If microsoft had wanted to completely destroy the iPod, the Zune wouldn't be out yet."

Ah, the old "the product sucks because they WANTED it to suck" line. I'm sure a mediocre product with an almost non-existent response from the marketplace was part of Microsoft's ultimate strategy. If so, they hit the bulls eye!

Wow, the MS apologists are really getting desperate these days.

As for a pink Zune, it's obviously targeted to the female demographic. And female buyers are typically more attracted to style (what's "en vogue") and ease-of-use than tech specs. In other words, they'll continue to buy iPods. Coloring a Zune pink is just wailing in the wilderness.]]>Apr 7th 2007 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/Apr 7th 2007 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
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The two have nothing to do with each other. MS is evil. And they never come out with original ideas.

I'm guessing this thing will follow the Xbox model and be profitable...never.]]>Apr 7th 2007 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
And Apple users keep proving how completely clueless and bizarre they are.

A philosophy of hate isn't going to sell people to your products.]]>Apr 7th 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
"Apple only releases numbers when they want to, we won't know until they want to. And based on (actually) understanding Apple, past annoucnements and their own understanding that half a million is not significant, they wouldn't release a number unless it was a million."

After you post this, you actually have the gall to post this...

"The AppleTV was the first product to outsell the iPod at Apple for 3 years, and it does so for 4 weeks. It remains a decent seller."


You just posted that you have no idea what Apple has sold, but you then say that it is selling faster than the iPod?

Like I said, you Apple users have too much of a tendency to either exaggerate or just flat out lie. ]]>Apr 7th 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Posting a sales benchmark of units sold is a whole lot different than looking at a Top Sellers list on their store, is it not?

I can see what sells best at Amazon, that does not tell me how many units sold.

"Like I said, you Apple users have too much of a tendency to either exaggerate or just flat out lie. "

I neither exaggerated or lied. You have too much of a tendency to be ignorant and illogical.]]>Apr 7th 2007 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
i do like the idea of pink,, who is gunna steal one,, but look at it this way,, in a years time, when its obsolete, still pink, & still on the self,, it should be a cheap buy.]]>Apr 7th 2007 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/the great majority of buyers are not techie and will not really care too much beyond 1) who makes it 2)what does it look like (color/size/display/etc) 3)does it play my music easily and well. they know its MS and they know it will play music well, so really they will be buying on looks and appeal. MS cant change the whole form factor but they can give more colors to appeal to more. people will buy more ipods because in their minds the apple fits the criteria better, but the zune will eventually catch on once they see a few of them in person.

no not all people will get one, i didnt-i personally think its too big..and i already have 2 ipods, but to say its going to completely fail just because you think brown is an ugly color and you hate MS shows why you arent in microsofts marketing and development team (and no, its not because you dont WANT to be in it, its because you cant)]]>Apr 7th 2007 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/07/official-pink-zune-gets-100-000-unit-production-run/
Apparently, we now know how Microsoft is spending some of it's marketing dollars. Paying people to track blogs... what do they call it? Astroturfing?


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