http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/ Engadget Comments for Mod your 360 with an off-the-shelf 120GB HDD, save $100 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Also, Doesn't the $179 include the coveted cable that will allow you to transfer all those precious game saves?
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Yes and Yes]]>Apr 23rd 2007 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
Honestly, Microsoft is stupid. All they need to do is enable USB support for mass storage devices and let you backup all of your saved games on to a thumbdrive or external hard drive.]]>Apr 23rd 2007 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
No one knows about the 360, but with the removeable HDD enclosure, it would be hard to marry a HDD to an xbox when you could conceivably take you HDD to a buddy's house and play your game saves or downloaded content. That would really mess up the live database.]]>Apr 23rd 2007 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Not to meantion that PS3 is really just the way for them for Blu-Ray to get the largest market share, and if they need to allow people to make cheap linux computers out of them, so be it. thats why the HD is upgradeable and the memory card reader is there, running an OS with severly limited resources would be even less practical without those two things.

While i do think the 120GB HD is severly over-priced, certified hardware is going no-where. Anyone whos had a 3rd party memory card crap out on them knows that while certified accessories are over-priced, they are not shoddily built.
I would gladly do this upgrade, but i somehow get the feeling microsoft will have some rehash that will lead to banning on Live, since i'm sure they are using a certain drive type, with a certain serial number range, if they really want to, they could shut this down.]]>Apr 23rd 2007 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
Micro$oft should allow you to throw in whatever drive you want into YOUR SYSTEM.

It's almost as if YOU don't own your 360. They still own it, and will tell you what to do with it. Kinda sucks.

Sony will let you add a new drive, partition the drive and slam Linux on the PS3. 360 is like lockdown land. What gives? ]]>Apr 23rd 2007 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/ what you said is what i was thinking.]]>Apr 25th 2007 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
It looks like the keys are all unique so that MS can ban any boxes that have are using duplicate keys.

So, to actually save money on this scenario you'll need to purchase the $80 drive and a $200 xbox360 120G drive then clone the drive so your $80 drive works.

After cloning the drive you'll need to break/brick the $200 drive by shorting some electronics, or by applying excess G's while running and return it to the store as defective.

As long as MS doesn't repair the drive, you'll have a cheap 120G drive.

-Ellery]]>Apr 23rd 2007 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
Secondly, as already stated, unless MS keeps tabs on the batch numbers of the HDDs that they're putting out (Which they might) they have no way of tracking what's
what because the whole point of the 360 harddrive is to allow people to take they're saves and content to other 360 owners.

Besides, all that people would have to say is that, "How the hell was I suppose to
know my friend had a hacked drive?" I would say all this is gonna be a safe bet. The only thing now people need to wait for is a cheap 360 HDD empty encloser!

http://sendmeaeuro.awardspace.com]]>Apr 23rd 2007 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
Anyway, I strongly suspect that once the initial wave of Elites sells out, Gamestop will be rife with transfer cables because there's no point in keeping them once you've used them, and even if they only give people a trade-in value of like a dollar or two, that's better than having it sit in the back of a closet for the next ten years. So even if USB mass storage doesn't work out, you can just buy/borrow a transfer cable, since it's very much a one-shot affair.]]>Apr 23rd 2007 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
"Q. Could you do this for my Seagate, Maxtor, Samsung or whatever drive too?
A. Yes, but I don't have plans to do so. The cheapest WD drive (40 gb) ships for about $50 and thus is one of the cheapest. It is a lot of work to
convert this tool for usage with other brands and I don't think it is worth the trouble."

Hmm...is he implying that you can use this method to use any drive between 20 and 120 Gigs??? Does that mean that if I purchase a 40Gb the 360 will allow me to format and use 40Gb???

Does the 360 then not enforce either a 20Gb or 120Gb size? ]]>Apr 23rd 2007 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
"Hmm...is he implying that you can use this method to use any drive between 20 and 120 Gigs??? Does that mean that if I purchase a 40Gb the 360 will allow me to format and use 40Gb???

Does the 360 then not enforce either a 20Gb or 120Gb size?"

Yes, you can use any size 20GB+, but Xbox will only see it as either 20 or 120.]]>Apr 24th 2007 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/]]>Apr 23rd 2007 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
But then I wouldn't be able to play Halo 3 Beta in a few weeks or Command and Conquer 3. Not to mention a bunch of other cool exclusives that won't be on the PS3.

And of course $600 is a bit hard to swallow. And by the way...what the heck do you need a 160 GB hard drive on the PS3 for??? Theres not much content to be found on the thing. It's not like Sony has anything like Xbox Live Video Marketplace with huge High Def movie and TV downloads.

I rent movies and download and use demos all the time and have never needed anything more than my 20 Gig hard drive. You simply need to delete your old files every few months and delete 360 movie rentals after watching them. ]]>Apr 23rd 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 23rd 2007 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/
But then I wouldn't be able to play Halo 3 Beta in a few weeks or Command and Conquer 3. Not to mention a bunch of other cool exclusives that won't be on the PS3.

And of course $600 is a bit hard to swallow. And by the way...what the heck do you need a 160 GB hard drive on the PS3 for??? Theres not much content to be found on the thing. It's not like Sony has anything like Xbox Live Video Marketplace with huge High Def movie and TV downloads.

I rent movies and download and use demos all the time and have never needed anything more than my 20 Gig hard drive. You simply need to delete your old files every few months and delete 360 movie rentals after watching them."

Well, you see, he DOES need all that memory, because each game "installs" (caches) a lot of information on the hard drive, just so that his load times will be a little less dismal.

He can thank that slow ass Blew-Ray drive you got in your PS3, for that.]]>Apr 23rd 2007 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 24th 2007 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/mod-your-360-with-an-off-the-shelf-120gb-hdd-save-100/Apr 24th 2007 7:22AM