http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/ Engadget Comments for ATI's Radeon HD 2900 XT benchmarked, trumps NVIDIA's GeForce 8800 GTS http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
(sorry if this joke is getting old, but someone had to say it)]]>Apr 24th 2007 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
I do generally prefer ATI cards though. No particular reason, I've just always had solid experiences with them.]]>Apr 24th 2007 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
Having said that I am much more interested to see how the HD2600XT performs against the 8600GTS. The X1600 was never quite as good as the 7600 but this time around the 8600 seems a bit weak even compared to 7600 cards.
]]>Apr 24th 2007 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 25th 2007 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Bye.]]>May 3rd 2007 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
Or actually that doesn't matter, as long as ATI doesn't have any good linux drivers I'm going to buy Nvidia cards only.]]>Apr 24th 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
Hear that everyone? Go home, it's over.]]>Jun 28th 2007 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
I have had both ATI and NVIDIA cards. I currently have an 8800 in a Vista rig and am generally happy with it. I know there are some driver issues, but real world gaming seems to be working just fine with everything pegged to max.]]>Apr 24th 2007 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Jun 2nd 2007 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 26th 2007 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Apr 24th 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Click for an 8800gts w/ 320mb ram for $260

I doubt these new ati cards will cost any less than $450. =(]]>Apr 24th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082]]>Apr 24th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/It will be debuting along side the 2900 XTX which will be more powerful; they are comparing it to the 640mb 8800 not the 320. ]]>Apr 24th 2007 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
What's 125fps to 150? Crysis isn't out yet, wait.. then you'll see!]]>Apr 24th 2007 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/

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not that the cards going to be bad but quit linking that article it's very annoying :)]]>Apr 25th 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
I find it a little redundant that people are benchmarking cards made for DirectX 10, with DirectX 9 games and benchmarking applications. I realize that no DirectX 10 games are on the market, but why do I want to know how well it performs with DirectX 9? What does that tell me?]]>Apr 25th 2007 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/My question though is if I hook this up as my primary will it play nice with the very expensive 1950xtx I bought last year]]>May 13th 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
I was an ATI Supporter for a Long While, but i recently built a system that uses 2 8800 GTS KOs from EVGA and il never look back. It gets a score of 15046 on 3dMark06 in SLi and 10807 on 3dMark06 with a single 8800 GTS KO. Compared to when i benchmarked the Sapphire HD 2900 XT on the same system and ran a 9547 on 3DMark06. Sorry, but ATI has really let us down on this one.]]>May 17th 2007 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/update the driver to cut down some bits of filter/mapping or whatever to get better score. If you do compare the capture screen by screen you will find the trick of NVIDIA. I know it's hard to find out the difference when you are busy on gaming. However, it's what you pay for. It's compare only on the fps but the quility. I hate the trick. ]]>May 22nd 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/May 20th 2007 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM0MSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== that I suggest you read before making your purchase, read it well... Plenty of benches showing that nVidia is still superior. Ontop of that with the price range dropping 2 GTS's on SLI would destroy the 1900 xt. Do research before making a costly decision.]]>May 21st 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/May 21st 2007 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/

“A day late and a dollar short.” Cliché but accurate. The Radeon HD 2900 XT is late to the party and unfortunately is bringing with it performance that cannot compete. The GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB is $50 cheaper, performs better, and draws a lot less power than the 2900 XT.


This is as good as it is going to get for a while from ATI. The GeForce 8800 GTX will still dominate at the high end of the video card market. Of course we do not know about DX10 games yet, and there is no way to make any predictions how that comparison will turn out. As it stands right now the Radeon HD 2900 XT, in our opinion, is a flop. ATI needs to get its act together quickly. It needs to push out the mainstream cards soon and it needs to deliver a high end card that can actually compete at the high end of the market.

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With the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT we found that full grass is unplayable in this game even with AA disabled. With the grass notch off performance is very high, but if you bump the slider up one notch performance takes a tremendous hit. This doesn't happen everywhere there is grass in the game, but in several places throughout the game outdoors which have a lot grass that is seen far into the distance this does occur. It seems the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB handles grass better in Oblivion.






Here are a few screenshots that were originally taken at 1600x1200; we resized them for easy viewing. With no grass the framerate is a very high 49 FPS. Once we enable medium grass it plummets down to 18 FPS. Full grass further declines down to 15 FPS. It could be a performance issue that is fixable through driver updates, but as it stands right now grass is a problem for the Radeon HD 2900 XT in Oblivion.


Besides grass, we found that we could enable every in-game setting in Oblivion with the Radeon HD 2900 XT. This includes full fade distances, full shadow filtering settings and HDR. We had to scale the grass back to 25% of its full view distance to achieve playable performance. We were even able to turn on 2X AA at 1600x1200 for a very enjoyable experience. This is much faster than the previous ATI champ the Radeon X1950 XTX could achieve in Oblivion.


The BFGTech GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB competes very well and is able to achieve 2X AA at 1600x1200 as well. We also found the same in-game quality settings playable with the addition of being able to raise the grass setting up to 50% of maximum. Notice that even with the grass at a higher setting the GeForce 8800 GTS is still pulling faster minimum, maximum and average framerates.


The GeForce 8800 GTX just simply is not even in the same class as the Radeon HD 2900 XT here. We are able to run at 8X AA with maximum grass and in-game settings with framerates that annihilate the Radeon HD 2900 XT in this game.

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In the above screenshot you will see the 3DMark06 score of 10723 on the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, 9105 on the GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB and 11191 on the GeForce 8800 GTX. Yes, the 3DMark06 score and “game tests” are a good deal higher with the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT compared to the GeForce 8800 GTS and is just shy of the GeForce 8800 GTX. If you were a benchmark enthusiast you might think wow, the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT has to be faster in games because it is faster in 3DMark! By looking at 3DMark alone you would think it is almost as fast as a GeForce 8800 GTX. Well, you would be wrong.


Despite what the numbers in 3DMark are showing our evaluation has proven that the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT is slower than a GeForce 8800 GTS when it comes to actually gaming. Even our apples-to-apples real gaming tests confirmed that the 8800 GTS is faster than the HD 2900 XT and nowhere close to the GeForce 8800 GTX, yet here sits 3DMark showing us the opposite!


This goes out to anyone who puts any faith into 3DMark, or any other synthetic benchmark or scripted timedemo, those number simply mean nothing in relation to real gaming performance. If you care about knowing how these video cards compare in actual games there is no other way to get that information than playing the games themselves just as you would do as a gamer
]]>May 22nd 2007 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/FEAR—122 FPS ; & Oblivion—65.5 FPS(HDR enabled; Outdoor) @ 1,280x 1,024.

Cost= 8800GTX $549.99 or HIS 2900XT $459.99

I'll spring for 2 8800's over 2 2900's any day. P.S. DX10 or Vista shouldn't even come into play for 2 years. If your smart you'll stick w/ XP until the kinks are out of Vista.

peace]]>May 23rd 2007 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/
I went to nvidia.com and ati.com to compare spec. and dont know why nvidia is cost more when the 8800 ultra version only has
128 stream processor but ati 2900xt has 320
384-bit for 8800 ultra while ati 2900xt has 512-bit

So is the 2900xt has better graphic? can someone help me why nvidia is lower in numbers as above but cost so much more like $800 when ati only 400 something. Thank guys ]]>Jun 6th 2007 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM1MSw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
The ati 2900 is impressive but uses to much power and power supplies over 600w arnt cheap.]]>Jun 26th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Jun 28th 2007 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/atis-radeon-hd-2900-xt-benchmarked-trumps-nvidias-geforce-880/Jul 19th 2007 7:08PM