http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/ Engadget Comments for Spanish solar tower could eventually power an entire city http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/Jun 18th 2007 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
That's got to be the hottest technology in all of Spain...

Why no link love to the bbc? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6616651.stm\


- Josh
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http://www.wentworth.nsw.gov.au/solartower/

No mirrors, no pointing of sun, no bright light. ]]>May 4th 2007 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
NIMBY effects aside you'd think they'd be putting a few of these up in the US SouthWest.

They also failed to cover how they're storing energy for cloudy days or nighttime. Interesting article, but incomplete.]]>May 4th 2007 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
Yeah, but that's Spanish megawatts though... :-)
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http://www.deloreanmotorcar.com/ec/jigawatts.htm
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Further reading shows 11MW=6,000 homes so for 600,000 homes it would need to somehow generate 1,100MW almost 1.2 gigawatts!]]>May 4th 2007 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 5th 2007 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
11MW on pure solar with -0- emissions is not a bad thing. (Well, maybe bad for big-oil) :)
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But thanks for the valuable input.]]>May 4th 2007 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
The idea is, if you can synthesize enough different layers, and stack them up, you could increase the amount of energy absorbed per mirror(I guess it won't be a mirror if it absorbs the light though), but the problem is there are still too many defects when synthesizing the crystals, but it's being worked on, and it is just a matter of time. if every one of those mirrors is converted, the amount of power could be almost doubled.

I don't know much more of any other uses, or exactly what they mean by absorbed, or how the "absorbed" energy will be converted to electricity. Also, does this mean they reflect absolutely no lights? because there could be a lot of uses for that too.]]>May 4th 2007 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1983asme.confS....B]]>May 4th 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.solucar.es/

Its definately 11MW, it also says it will generate 23GWh per year.]]>May 4th 2007 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
Seems to me that my solar water heater's just black absorbing light. I know it's a different technology but still- who wants to live next to a gigantic, phallic disco ball?]]>May 4th 2007 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
I don't know, would you rather live next door to a coal or nuclear powerplant ?]]>May 5th 2007 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
I live about 7 blocks from a bioenergy plant. Not bad & I know where our local farm waste goes.]]>May 5th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 4th 2007 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
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Yeah, except it doesn't exist yet. It's all "proposed".

Did you even read the article? Some of it has already been built, it currently powers 6000 homes with more to come! So not all proposed. And I would know! I went there last year! My Exchange students dad worked here! Never realised how cool that was until now!]]>May 5th 2007 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/2) Costs. The first nuclear plant was was hugely expensive, mining and treating the uranium is likely to be more expensive than cleaning some mirrors. Just wait for diffusion and you will see a dramatic drop of the cost-per-Kw. And the sun is not likely to end as the fossil...
3) Solar energy hasn't enough density to be efficiently converted in electrical energy? That means that all the people using black pipes on the rooftops to warm the water, solar panels, and so on are wasting energy? The fact is in front of your eyes. Not enough density? You simply use mirrors concentrate the solar radiation to get the right amount. You just need space on the ground and clear sky... Deserts perhaps?]]>May 5th 2007 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/ Why in the world would this be bad for big oil? The world doen't use very much oil to make electricity. I'm amazed at how much public ignoranace there is about energy. Plenty of strong opinions, very little actual knowledge. These are the folks who actually believe that wind power is making a difference.
The Enviromeission solar tower is a better design and far simplerand the output capacity far greater. Am RFP by El Paso Electric was responded to by Enviromission
to provide 200 megawatts (unlike crappy wind, producing RELIABLE power 24/7). This
technology is cheaper than wind, and its output is not garbage electricity like wind power, either - it's output will be worth at least three times the kWhr rates that wind operators are getting. Notice that wind is receiving massive subsidies so it can produce crap that nobody wants. I note that the TERC reported statistic s showinf wind power operating at an insignificant 2.5% during peak demand. When it gets hot or cold and demand peaks, the wind seldom blows. Thus is the death knell
of wind power. Only the ignorant public still believe wind power has any real value. Wind power costs over $6 million per MW, nuclear less than $1 million per MW, and nuclear fuel costs are less than the royalties wind pays the landowners!!! Wind truly sucks. ]]>May 5th 2007 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 5th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 6th 2007 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/May 7th 2007 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
Bring Popcorn. Lots and lots of popcorn.]]>May 17th 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
Bring Popcorn. Lots and lots of popcorn.]]>May 17th 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
http://www.solel.com/products/pgeneration/ls2/kramerjunction/]]>May 30th 2007 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/
http://www.powerlight.com/success/pdf/Serpa_Fact_Sheet_A4.pdf

The area is semi-arid and the installations seems to have gone almost unnoticed by the local population.]]>Jun 5th 2007 6:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/If we listened to those who bagged the first airplanes we wouldn't have the great planes we have today.
There must be a starting point in which to evolve into something better.

To those pride filled gooses who flag their electrical degrees as some sort of excuse to beat down those who are having a go, I have zero respect for you and your cereal packet degree.
]]>Jun 8th 2007 12:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/spanish-solar-tower-could-eventually-power-an-entire-city/forum flown over one of these, say, in the California dessert ? Nice link previously posted of
this site.

http://www.solel.com/products/pgeneration/ls2/kramerjunction/

If so is it blinding ? Just curious.

I love the idea of grabbing power from the sun :)
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