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primarily because he uses a Mac!

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People act like a mac is for dumb people who wan't a fisher price toy. The fact is that a Mac is perfect for hard core users. If you essentially want a linux or unix environment "on the go", you're going to get yourself a mac.

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Internet dorks want to rant and complain and cry and attack. Then when the person they're all gossiping and talking about chimes in, they're suddenly a self-involved ego-boosting ass? Really?

I would say it's pretty damn cool that someone would even pay attention to the internet regarding their career and projects and that they'd interact with people - including those who don't agree with them or enthusiastically support their stuff.

But, I guess whiny "ain't it cool" style idiots would rather just blather endlessly from their mom's basements without ever possibly facing the people they're talking about.

Bruce gets big points for this. Completely awesome.]]>May 12th 2007 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 13th 2007 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
Use whatever the hell you want, I don't care. I know mac and windows zealots hate to hear this, but both OS's for all their rabid proponents are pretty much identical to the user. I know it sucks, sorry guys but your OS of choice is really nothing special be it Windows , Mac, Linux, what have you. At the end of the day the computer is just the tool, the person using it is what matters.]]>May 12th 2007 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
Honestly. I had decided to wait for DVD, but now I'm making the trip because...
A) he had the brains to actually get iChat working. May not sound like much to us... but there are a LOT of dumb people out there.
B) he had the balls to show up and face his fanboi critics on their turf.
C) We're both First Amendment Alumni. (Wonder if ANYONE will understand that one.)]]>May 12th 2007 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
also, i wonder why you comment is "lowest ranked" just for saying your experience with a mac was sub-par...]]>May 12th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/I know what you mean, you do make a very good point. However, the quality, capabilities and power of the tool make a great difference to ease of use, and what you can do with it.

Macs are easier to use than PCs. I don't deny this. However, I am a gamer and develop software. You are massively more restricted with both gaming and software development on macs. Vote me down, blast me, do whatever. It is a truth.

Another thing, programs written for macs give you considerably less income than programs written for the PC, simply because of the small user base. I am sorry my previous comments were a little harsh, I had just had a frustrating time with a mac at university, so was not in the best mood. I will try to be a little more professional.]]>May 12th 2007 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
Your argument is solid, you have a legitimate beef with the OS. I don't for a second believe any option presented to todays computer consumer is without flaw. So I say; use what works for you. If that means only using Windows then rock and freaking roll. Me, I'm going to keep using everything I can get my hands on. Theres a lot of variety out there and a lot of cool software being written for all of them. If that means I won't catch anything you've developed on my macbook, thats fine maybe I'll see some of your work on my dell. Its all good, at the end of the day I'm just a nerd and its a great time to be a nerd. I see incredibly innovative apps and solutions being written for the Mac despite its limiting developer support. And at my business I am forced to be able to utilize all the different platforms to meet client demands. Using one system just doesn't make sense to me, I want to see and be a part of it all, the only way to do that is to ignore these petty arguments about which is the "best" and use all of them. What kind of geek is satisfied with only one piece of equipment?
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As far as the article... he did the honorary thing? That should be 'honorable' right? Not being a blog critic, just wanted to make sure I was getting the context right.]]>May 12th 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
Gaming I can agree with, but I don't see how you are restricted development wise? The APIs are as good as those on any other platform and the development tools are free. There isn't an application you can make on Windows or Linux that isn't also capable on the Mac.

As for the considerably less income, I'd say that you are taking the basic idea that having less market share means you can't earn as much money. On the contrary, it may be easier to make money on the Mac than the PC. Less software means less competition, and the fact that most Mac software is sold over the internet means that it costs very little to get started and get on level footing with your competition. The APIs available allows you to build quite large applications with very small teams. You also have to realise that while the Mac has 5% of the market, it is the 5% of the market that has the money and is the most likely to buy 3rd party software. I suggest you try Mac development before claiming that it is severely lacking.]]>May 13th 2007 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
I know what you mean when you say "What kind of geek is satisfied with only one piece of equipment?". I personally tend to buy pretty much every gadget I can get my hands on (a bad, expensive habit) but I have just not had a need for a mac. I used them extensively at high school, and on many occasions at uni, but they never grew on me. Yes, there are indeed some amazing programs on the mac. They are well suited to designing and media creation/editing. However, when it comes to gaming any one of the plethora of other uses of a computer I have found macs lacking. Don't get me wrong, I think they are fantastic for your average Joe that knows nothing about computers as they are so easy to get the hang of, but for power users they fall short. I believe though, that it is certainly worth using as many operating systems as you can get your hands on, and if it is in your line of work to use many types of computers then you cannot afford to take precedence.

Basically, my viewpoint is this: if you like an OS, so be it, if you dislike an OS, so be it, however, make sure you have used and used well that which you dislike. People that dislike Vista because "itz made by M$!!1!1!" annoy the hell out of me. Each to their own.]]>May 12th 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
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Really, people act like Mac is for people who either really need the few/many developmental tools that Mac has for a specific subject. PCs with Windows is ideal for people who are going to do a variety of things, and want a reliable machine at that (I know for a fact that Macs aren't durable, as my friend has gone through 5-6 iMacs in the past year, all of them failing with cooling, and randomly shutting off) will last for a while, and won't require much maintenance. I agree, OS X has it's uses, but for the general public, it just falls short.

I think it's kind of cool that someone of fame would just do regular/weird people stuff... I guess. ]]>May 12th 2007 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
directive0 is right, so it's probably pointless to say anything else, but at least I felt I should point out the errors in your logic.
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As for the mac and PC debate, i love how directive0 put it: "Its just sad to see the same ignorance shown in religious disagreements spill over into computers."

Things can be different yet equal. Both platforms have their benefits and downfalls. At the end of the day, I use both religiously and am very happy using both platforms for their strengths and what i need them for.
Now as for linux users.... i keed, i keed.]]>May 12th 2007 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
I will have to agree that my original experience with Mac (G3 iMac running os 9) for a High School graphic design class made me want to beat myself to death with the one button mouse. Couldnt run Photoshop and Indesign at the same time cuz it didnt have enough system memory. When doing work on it i would grab an element and move it and the processor would be delay the action on the screen by 5 seconds or so. The experience caused me to write off Mac until I had to try yet again in school using G5 towers running OSX to do multimedia/video production work. I realized my initial experience with Mac was a bad one.. and that my High School bought bottom of the line with probably no upgrades and probably pleaded with Mac to downgrade the units to save some money.]]>May 14th 2007 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
He readily admitted in the Talk Backs that he just didnt know how to use a PC and that was why he bought a Mac.]]>May 12th 2007 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 13th 2007 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/there are a surprising number of famous people who have macs and buy shareware software.
http://www.scriptsoftware.com
julian]]>May 12th 2007 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/"allegorical"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

]]>May 14th 2007 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
http://japansugoi.com/wordpress/akihiro-suzuki-is-puchi-bruce-japans-best-bruce-willis-impersonator/]]>May 12th 2007 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 12th 2007 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/By the way, that's not me in that picture up there. Bruce talked to 2-4 people on iChat AV I think, gauging from the TalkBack at the time. He asked me whether it was possible to retract his mac.com address from the TalkBack... Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?]]>May 12th 2007 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 13th 2007 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/celeb-willis.htm]]>May 13th 2007 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 13th 2007 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
How's that for a Cache refresh? Enjoy.]]>May 13th 2007 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
iChat with Bruce Willis would be awkward IMHO.]]>May 13th 2007 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/May 13th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/12/bruce-willis-ichat-user-forum-troll/
Your comment about "terrible logic" being consistent with Apple is short-sighted and ignorant. The Mighty Mouse sucks, but they have a lot of nice hardware and software and I've found a lot of intuitiveness in using their products that made me wonder why others are still doing it the "hard way."

Why not accept that Macs work well for some people and PCs work well for others? A simple rule would be: if you hate the machine so much, don't use it. Otherwise, your negative comments only make you look ignorant and belligerent.]]>May 14th 2007 11:30AM