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BUT

Do I have to pay Sprint for DUN if I surf web on it?

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Here is hopeing PDANet gets a program working for this ASAP.

a]]>May 30th 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/- Jobs competitive juices may be motivated by Microsoft Surface Multitouch - but not by this. Jobs has head start with iPhone, M$ coming at it from other end with $10k servers for hotels/casinos. Question is who can get to the the center fastest/most efficiently.
- Palm seems done to me. Stick a fork in them. Their innovation since the Treo 650 has been non-existent.

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I actually think this could be useful. I would use it in my car for directions. Its a MID except the internet part is provided through ur phone. Its not the greatest invention ever, but priced nicely, i am in. Beats $1,500+ for a UMPC]]>May 30th 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Does Palm really expect to sell a crippled laptop for $500? Seriously, just liquidate your assets to the highest bidder already.]]>May 30th 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
just kidding ]]>May 30th 2007 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
I am not impressed at all. I really though Palm would create something innovative considering the hype surrounding Hawkins.

This device is crap. My 14" notebook can do a everything and doesn't weigh me down.

There isin't a need for this new category of a dummied down device at all.

I guess I should look at the new Windows Mobile 6 powered smartphones that have the works.

What is the problem with Palm? All they had to do is create a linux based OS for the Treo based on the Palm architecture, fix bugs and they would have a winner.

Palm should learn from Motorola. The new Linux based interface on the Razr2 is great.]]>May 30th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
it shouldn't be pocket size, it should be laptop bag size! we all carry those! oh, wait! i know, let's make it just a giant $500 screen for a phone! and it should have 'instant' applications! because we all know that eight seconds to open an email app is WAY too long...]]>May 30th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/shure, it "extends" my smartphone, but what else?

it runs linux, so can i use it like a normal linux, on a most likely weak cpu?

can i install programms on it?

when i first read about it, i sounded like it could be great, but the more im reading ...

but maybe it is a great cheap hackable subnotebook?
the appletv of notebooks?

one can always dream ...

vert]]>May 30th 2007 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/Jobs, Gates, and Schmidt must be laughing BALLZ backstage.
]]>May 30th 2007 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/yeah am not blown away ... and for e-mail and web what ya gonna use ? my data package from my mobile ? or is there wifi ? cos that at least would make it worth something .. ie .. bring it into the same category as that wifi internet tablet from nokia ..

sorry PALM .. i really was expecting more ..
but i do like that new softer more 2007 interface on screen .. cos it blows away the lamo interface of ya smartphone..

love .. ]]>May 30th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
The non-technical will be scared off trying to pair it (no matter how easy they say it is).

The technical already MUST use a laptop for various other things like citrix, etc -- so they're not buying this in droves.

And not for nothing but developers already seem to be abandoning the Palm ship. So I'm left with a fast booting $ 499 paperweight.

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Palm's history. They had a good idea for a minute, now they couldn't create something inovative to save their lives. How's about making a Treo that isn't the size of three Blackjacks/Qs stacked on top of each other? No, they've decided we don't have enough crap to carry around with us.

FYI Palm, the whole concept of a smartphone is to leave the laptop at home! Morons...]]>May 30th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
But I really don't get it. Right now I tether my macbook to my phone no problem - and I use it to check my email, web browse, etc. People do these with other PC / mac / linux laptops as well. Why don't I just use my laptop instead of a foleo??

Like, I really think i'm missing something... Am I??

-Kevin]]>May 30th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Microsoft has released a device that we can't get.
Palm has released a device that we won't get.
C'mon Steve, don't let us down. Please tell me you have something besides a rehash of DRM-free songs.]]>May 30th 2007 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Questions:
1. Does it become a brick if you don't have a Treo? I.e. can you surf over WiFi with it, where are the files stored? etc. If I show up at Starbucks without my phone can I hope on their WiFi?

2. How many people can share it? Is it locked to one Treo? Can my wife an I both use it?

3. Is it only for the Treo? I used VersaMail on my LifeDrive and it was great for reading mail but not anything with input, can I use this with other Palms? The video mentions support for other phones, but I'm guessing that it's a way off.

4. If this is pretty much a dumb terminal, will someone write a utility to allow me to connect to my PC upstairs via my home network? Can I access other resources then my Treo? If it can do some of those things, then $500 for a stripped down, ultra portable laptop doesn't seem so bad. ]]>May 30th 2007 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
If this thing actually works, that is. The first Palm amazed me in that they made something that worked without thinking about it. There's no way you can tell from this sketchy product intro whether it does that. Just as many people couldn't tell about the iPod from its intro.

I carry a Treo around and I have Opera on it, but I will not pick it up if there's a laptop available. Why? Because of the laptop's larger screen and better keyboard, that's why.

I'm not saying that this will succeed, but I think I need to try it with my Treo to find out, not look at swiveling pictures of it. Many old products like the Psion could work today if they had a certain amount of work done on them to make them usable in today's environment.]]>May 30th 2007 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com_Audrey]]>May 30th 2007 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emate
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Between Windows Mobile, the iPhone, and Palm's own chronic ineptitude, Palm Inc is so beyond dead, they need a new word for dead.]]>May 30th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Seems like an odd idea to me.]]>May 30th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Now, I'm ROTFL!!

I can't even get bluetooth headset to work reliably with my 700p! I have to stare at a blank screen for several seconds when switching apps; now he talks about INSTANT access to e-mail!!

Instead of spending five years to come up with an underpowered laptop, Palm could have at least spent a little time fix the numerous bugs on the Treo. ]]>May 30th 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palms-jeff-hawkins-live-from-d-2007/
Maybe there's something that Hawkins didn't convey to the masses. It certainly seems like a dumbed down laptop. At a net price of $399, I'm sure some would consider it...but why not pay $200 more and get a REAL laptop?

Perhaps these should be sold through a non-traditional CE retailer....maybe even Starbucks???

I agree with a previous poster...these'll be sold during "Back To School" in August for $ 99 - $ 199. And for that price, they might move off the retail shelves.

Or...maybe a bundle....1 FREE Treo with every Palm Foleo purchased!

Please....share with why the incredible hype for this product ??

Enlighten me.



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