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I need a live feed of D before I implode from anticipation.]]>May 30th 2007 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/
The christians have christmas, the jews have passover, the stoners have 420.

Nothing compares to what could happen in this discussion.

Except maybe 420.]]>May 30th 2007 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/Jun 3rd 2007 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/
INT D5 AUDITORIUM

Jobs: "Hi, I'm a Mac"
Gates: "I can't comment on someone else's ad. Goodbye."

(Gates storms off like a whiny wench)
(Jobs shrugs and waggles eyebrows comically at camera)
(SFX: Trombone "wah-wah" sound)]]>May 30th 2007 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/
However, it would be great if the two put aside their technical differences and made everything work together, and give all mac users updates so that they can work seemlessly with windows-computers... Ahh, what a dream.

"I have a dream that one day this world will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all computers are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former Mac fanboys and the sons of former windows users will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood."
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Oh, Sorry, that didn't happen.]]>May 31st 2007 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/]]>May 31st 2007 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/Amazing that Microsoft has what? 90%+ of installed base, but market value to investors is currently only 3x Apple
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Look at Google - Google's revenues are nowhere near justifying its market cap. But ppl expect great things from GOOG so they invest.

The market cap expresses what investors feel a company will do years and years into the future. And investors have been wrong before. Sometimes spectacularly so. So don't read too much meaning in market cap.

And here's from your own Engadget analyst (owns AAPL):

MSFT: MS owns everything, has a monopoly/license to print cash, has no ideas and all operations except windows and office lose money and it's not foreseeable any of them will make a profit any time soon. Maybe XBOX but even that has a big question mark. MS cannot grow based on Windows / Office because it already maxed out its market share. MS cannot grow with the other products because they all lose lots of $$$. MS does not have a history of innovation. MS might be the next IBM (before the IBM recovery). MS can be expected to dish out good dividends based on huge profits for years to come - but that is not an interesting upside for investors.

AAPL: Apple has a tiny market share which is growing like crazy. The iPod halo effect will be increased by the iPhone halo effect. Apple might become the worlds largest music store, a major player in cell phones, and given their track record (iPod) may realize all the potential that is in computer/home entertainment convergence. Lots of companies are trying but only very few of them look likely to succeed, AAPL chief amongst them. Strong design, strong focus on usability - that makes greate consumer devices.
All along, Macs are the bread and butter and growing the mac market share to 10% would double Apples already excellent profits from Macs.
This is why the stock price is extremely high. Whether or not its too high despite all the positives is up to you. ]]>May 31st 2007 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 31st 2007 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 31st 2007 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/steve-jobs-and-bill-gates-historic-discussion-live-from-d-2007/May 30th 2007 11:10PM