http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/ Engadget Comments for Canadian cable providers locking out Vista Media Centers? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 18th 2007 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
Us Canucks have a number of small time providers over cable as well in the west there is Shaw, which is not owned by Rogers. Here in Vancouver there are local companies that supply cable that have no affiliation with Shaw or Rogers.

As for the story...not surprising at all. Shaw is slimey that way. We had a blue screen with the shaw logo on our TV for nearly a day last year for most american networks and shaw's reply was there was something wrong with the source that Komo, Kiro and King were all out. I called a friend who lived across town and his cable was fine. They never did take responsibility but freely offered a rebate after much complaining.]]>Jun 1st 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 2nd 2007 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 2nd 2007 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
CTV HD and CBC HD come in fine with small rabbit ears...can't wait for more channels and maybe some repeaters for the Washington channels.]]>Jun 2nd 2007 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
Bastards.]]>Jun 1st 2007 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
George]]>Jun 1st 2007 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/CustomerCare/InternetSupport/Residential/Sharing/BitTorrent.htm]]>Jun 1st 2007 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
[What do we do? We are driven to download videos illegally from the U.S. and buy imported bootleg DVDs, that's what!]]]>Jun 1st 2007 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/CustomerCare/InternetSupport/Residential/Sharing/BitTorrent.htm"

OMG........ I realize it's to trick people into using less bandwidth to save Shaw money but still, that is funny.]]>Jun 1st 2007 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 4th 2007 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Since there is NO LAWS, or RULES, or even ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of existence of such things as broadcast flags by any Canadian authority, the door is wide open for outfits like Shaw, Rogers, and Bell to abuse it, to weed out the competition and sell more $800 PVRs.
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It is MICROSOFT'S responsiblity to not enable these DRM restrictions on media centers that are sold in countries where such DRM restrictions are not recognized by law.
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Microsoft is selling something to Canadians which does NOT do as it advertises, record TV, because of restrictions which are only enforced in the USA.]]>Jun 1st 2007 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
There's not going to be a market for these media center pc's in Canada anymore if the cable providers do this. If a special version is released for canada that doesn't recognize the flag, well it won't be exclusive to canada for long.]]>Jun 1st 2007 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
kevin]]>Jun 1st 2007 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 1st 2007 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 2nd 2007 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html]]>Jun 2nd 2007 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 5th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
http://support.crtc.gc.ca/CRTCSubmissionMU/forms/main.aspx?lang=e

Iggy]]>Jun 2nd 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/190596.aspx ]]>Jun 2nd 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 2nd 2007 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 2nd 2007 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
It there is content protection, it has still allowed me to record the show in SD but it doesn't happen very often.

I tried to purchase another PVR from E-bay (which shaw said I could do) but then they refused to connect it to their network.

So now they basically have a monopoly on digital cable and stb's.

Truly evil...

Hopefully MS's implementation of IPTV will save us all and cut-out the middleman for good...

Vista with HD rocks btw...]]>Jun 4th 2007 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
Wait-a-sec... MS is going to save us from content protection restrictions? They've been one of the first enablers of this technology as far as I can tell. They would rather cut out the cable cos, sure... but only to yolk us more firmly to their own DRM cart.

unless you are somehow talking about a different MS? :P]]>Jun 4th 2007 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
They sell software, not content...

And yes, their IPTV will be restricted up the ying-yang but at least they will be following hollywierds rules instead of making up their own like the cable co's...

If you don't like it, steal your content like everyone else...]]>Jun 4th 2007 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
Cancel your account- show them you mean business. And don't do it silently- tell the world at www.boycottrogers.com

BR Admins]]>Jun 5th 2007 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
It was only "criticized" by MS bloggers, and yet Mr. Gutmann replied to all of these comments factually. Something you have yet to do,]]>Jun 5th 2007 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/Jun 19th 2007 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/ ]]>Jul 15th 2007 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/01/canadian-cable-providers-locking-out-vista-media-centers/
For all you do Rogers, I hate you.]]>Aug 20th 2007 4:54PM