http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft aware Xbox 360 "sweet spot" is $199, not limited to 20-something demographic http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/*ahem* I think Microsoft is feeling Nintendo's pressure.]]>Jun 9th 2007 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
If you would look more carefully at market structure, you would notice that every console now competes with PS2.

$199 == new PS2 + 2 games. (And PS2 has library of games to choose from)

I'm sure that as soon as M$' gaming division would reach profitability, they would start playing with price - probably by releasing new cheaper SKU or revising Core version. But not before Xbox would become profitable.

I'd say that Xbox360 price is OK. I do no like classical controller nor actual game library does fit me - PC RPG/FPS fan here - yet there are good games and over all it is very nice offer for all what it has inside. I think both Xbox360 and Wii are priced OK for their respective target audiences.

Though of course to widen the audience, vendors would have to resort to price cuts - both on front of consumers and on front of developers. (*)

I hope that Wii & PS3 would start feeling heat of XBLA soon - because from my POV this is best what happened to game consoles in all years: finally way to deliver really cheap games to masses.

(*) With actual price of Wii, the price cuts might actually get ugly. From my personal experience - as embedded software developer - such hardware becomes cheap as dirt in two/three years. Yet, Wii has little/no potential to boost user experience - what would mean that in two-three ears Wii might cost say $75-100-120 (what PS2 costs now). Nintendo would have to release new console in no more than 3-4 years. But Xbox360 has a capacity to grow, since it does support both SD and HD along with XBLA and game patching. So it would last longer than Wii.]]>Jun 9th 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
You can claim up and down that the Wii doesn't add to the user experience of the system. But there's a lot of features in the Wii that MSFT and SNY seem to be mimicking as of late. Nintendo has been pretty effective in putting on the pressure on their competitors for a relatively petite price. As much as it may be hard to admit for MSFT and Sony... Nintendo is the one applying the pressure, they're back and they want their market share back. MSFT and Sony right now are the ones trying to defend a crown from the previous generation and they've become really reactionary. This isn't meant to be a bash on the other two systems, but it ain't Nintendo feeling the heat, it's vice versa.

BTW, Adam, the $249 price tag includes a game... and with games sitting at around $50... if you can find the core system, which, I could have sworn existed, it'd be $199.]]>Jun 9th 2007 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/does the machine makes a lot of noise as people are complaining???]]>Jun 9th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
I'm betting the Core will be dropped to $200. Production costs for Elite is around $323 last I heard from iSupply. ]]>Jun 9th 2007 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
I'm curious to see exactly how well Wii is selling compared to the others.
thanks]]>Jun 9th 2007 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://nexgenwars.com/ here you go it shows the the sales numbers.:)]]>Jun 10th 2007 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/The site nexgenwars.com provides a pretty accurate number of consoles sold to date of each next-gen system. As for cost to make each and their profit, most companies won't reveal that. All you can look for is analyst predictions. Hope this helps.]]>Jun 9th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
Although consider this: If you buy a Xbox360 then that reinforces MS to make more games, and if you don't buy Vista or Office that reinforces them to make more games if they see it as profitable.

Of course that assumes MS wants to make better margins instead of be a monopoly... so it's really all just wishful thinking...

I'm going to go buy a PS3 now... and put linux on it...]]>Jun 9th 2007 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 10th 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 12th 2007 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/One thing I wish MS would do is to fix the noise It's just too goddamm noisy!]]>Jun 9th 2007 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 10th 2007 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 10th 2007 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
I've been a gamer since about 1985 and for as long as I remember it's always been the same thing with new systems, better graphics and more buttons on the controllers. The Wii goes in a new direction. After 2+ decades it's about time somebody changed things up.

Side note: my three year old son literally just walked up to me with an old N64 game cart he found and asked me to open it. It doesn't open I said, that's the game itself. I forget that's something else that's changed, carts to discs.]]>Jun 10th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 10th 2007 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
$199 sounds great, but to be honest that almost seems underpriced. The Xbox 360 is a beast of a system compared to the Wii. Really, I dont even know why people compare the two anymore. The Xbox 360 has great games, awesome Media center functionality, great graphics and sound, and an awesome online experience.]]>Jun 18th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/Jun 9th 2007 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/09/microsoft-aware-xbox-360-sweet-spot-is-199-not-limited-to-20/
But I think Wii and Xbox 360 games are different, so the segmentation is different to... Girl Gamer will Buy Wii for Sure (I have saw many wii ads on Girl magazine, but Never seen Xbox 360 ads n girl magazine) .. But the boy must be hard to choose... The Game fun and colorful games like Harvest Moon and Cooking Mama. But Which girl want play Halo or Dead Or ALive?

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