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I have to wonder if there are any more last minute surprises (given the amazing battery life and now YouTube I guess I'm being greedy!).]]>Jun 20th 2007 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/experience on other phones.Many times faster download? There aren't
many other phones with 802.11g WiFi which is how I'd primarily use
the feature.So urrrrrgh! :p]]>Jun 20th 2007 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://images.apple.com/iphone/gallery/index4.html]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://images.apple.com/iphone/gallery/images/gallery4_hires20070621.jpg
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Here's more, they make wicked widescreen wallpapers:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/gallery/images/gallery1_hires20070621.jpg
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]]>Jun 20th 2007 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
For any of you with data plans, go to m.youtube.com and check it out.]]>Jun 20th 2007 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
The lack of 3g, etc doesn't bother me when it has so many features that other phones won't have!]]>Jun 22nd 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/I think your typical you tube quick clip would be around 2.5MB for maybe a minute of video or so.

2.5MB = 20 480 kbits.. @ 236kbits/s so around 86 seconds download. if it starts playing after quarter of the file is downloaded around 21 seconds. so lets say you would have to wait 20 to 30 seconds before watching a youtube video. not cool but is not torture either.

what would make this even better is if it would save it after your first watch. ]]>Jun 20th 2007 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
A bigger question is how, exactly, does h.264 improve battery life? Surely it requires significantly more processing power to decode? I know that my mac mini (G4 1.4GHz) can't play HD video in that format at full speed... does the iPhone have dedicated h.264 decoding hardware or something similar?]]>Jun 20th 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 21st 2007 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
And most youtube videos are in 4:3 format, so does that mean that the iPhone's nice widescreen goes to waste?]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
If at least you wont go for the iphone OS, make the intelligent decision and go for a Symbian OS.]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/]]>Jun 20th 2007 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Anyone that thinks it is, is just flat wrong. Sorry, but you are. For 500 bucks you can get a Mac mini. That's a whole PC, sans monitor. For 500 bones you can get 2 wii's. Is it cooler than 2 wii's? nope.]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
http://m.youtube.com/?warned=yes

Confusing. Makes it sound like its iPhone only.]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
What I don't understand is the stupidity of having YouTube reincode all their Flash videos in H.264. Flash's On2 codec is already very optimized for low-bandwidth streaming. H.264 is not. What does Apple think the iPhone is running on..3G? Or do they expect that all video watching will be done under the wings of the allegedly ubiquitous wi-fi hotspots?]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
That flies about as well as Jobs' statement that 3rd party apps are dangerous because they crash Cingular's network. ]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/
Winrot sets in after about a week (amazingly) even without third party software. Hard resets soon become second nature - as does loosing all of your stuff!

The UI is also very counter-intuitive; it works, just not the way it should. I still use a WiMo PocketPC as my day-to-day phone but to be honest I've all but given up on the advanced functionality because it's so clunky and buggy.

I think Apple's actually spot on with the 'limited' features and dead simple interface - perhaps a smartphone that will actually be useful.]]>Jun 20th 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/- Is this the first touchscreen phone? No! (too many examples)
- Is this the first phone with Safari browsing? NOO!! (all Nokia S60 3rd release phones have this AND visual history AND minimap quick browsing)
- Is the iPhone the first one with YouTube 3GP videos? NOOO!!! (Nokia, Motorola and I guess many other phones can have it at m.youtube.com TODAY)
- Is the iPhone the only smartphone with WiFi? (No, Nokia N95 and many others have it)

Does the iPhone have GPS? No. 5 MP camera? No. 3G? No. 3rd party apps? No.

Don't get me wrong - I think it is a very cool phone. If I would like touchscreen phones, I'd be getting an iPhone, most likely. But when the marketing machine (and fanboy evangelists) get in my face every day at least they should avoid misinformation.

Ps.: YouTube videos start playing after a second over 3G connection.]]>Jun 20th 2007 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/20/youtube-hits-apple-tv-today-headed-for-the-iphone-as-well/Jun 20th 2007 5:08PM