http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft unveils the Natural Ergonomic Desktop 7000 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
The flip-down feet in the back of the keyboard is actually what contributes to carpal tunnel syndrome. It would be more ergonomic to put the feet in the front of the keyboard... but then companies couldn't sell those weird-ass keyboards.
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What's so hard to understand? organic shape vs. rectangle. Which one do you think is easier on your organism?]]>Jun 24th 2007 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
I then switched to the MS Natural (and Natural Elite at one point) and all the pain went away, while still typing hard 8 hours per day. I eventually upgraded to the Natural Ergo 4000 and am using it now and love it.

Whenever I work on someone else's computer and they invariably use a non-ergo keyboard, I feel like my wrists are in a straightjacket, and can't imagine going back to that type of keyboard. I do agree with sracer that the risers or flip-feet in the back of any keyboard should be down, but it is the "gull wing" split V shape of these keyboards that is most important.

Ergo keyboards are the only way to go if you do any typing beyond the occasional one-fingered hunt and peck.]]>Jun 24th 2007 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
My only complaint is the tactile feedback from the keys. The EK4000 has a (very) slightly mushy feel. I hope on this wireless version they give a little better key feedback.

My (dork-) dream keyboard would have this configuration, key layout, and a buckling-spring mechanism (a la the IBM keyboards of my youth). Loud and fast as hell, but uber-comfortable.]]>Jun 24th 2007 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
I've had this Microsoft Ergonomic 4000(The one in the picture) since it came out, it's wonderful, granted the warranty(As always with Microsoft peripherals) is atrocious, but it feels great.]]>Jun 24th 2007 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
I've got the old wireless MS Natural Multimedia keyboard/mouse combo and I've been waiting for them to come out with this version in wireless. Looks like my wait is over.]]>Jun 24th 2007 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
What I do belive is the "placebo"-effect..
- Hey, you have this super ergonomic keyboard, so now u shouldn't feel uncomfortable!
- Oh, wow. Thanks. Now all my problems are suddenly gone!

The thing with my computer sessions are that I always step up for a while, go take something to drink once in a while, never feel stressed from "using those high-tech devices called computers", sitting always in a comfortable chair.

If you're stressed upp and tensioned, u'll certanly are going to get problems that some people would concider be the keyboard of the mouse's fault.]]>Jun 25th 2007 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
You can fix that by reading this:

http://paininthetech.com/hack_the_microsoft_natural_4000_keyboard


And to the person that thinks ergonomic keyboards are worthless...try lifting your arms out in front of you. Do your hands naturally fall flat like you are going to play a piano or do they fall slightly angled with your index fingers higher than your other fingers?


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I actually used that exact explanation to show my wife why ergonomic keyboards are correct. She never realized that hands naturally tilt when at rest.]]>Jun 25th 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
Or it might be that i've been using keyboards since i was 8, and now 25 years later, my hands have grown the right way to use those keyboards.

Or can it be that it doesn't have anything to do with how things are shaped, only that u feel comfortable with it and doesn't get tensioned or stressed, because that is the REAL damage.]]>Jun 25th 2007 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/168&cl=us,en

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I gave up wishing for a decent left handed mouse. I have since moved to the dark side and use my mouse on the right-side exclusively... Once you adjust to it being on the (wrong) right side all is well and you can play happy with all those new gadgets.]]>Jun 24th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=080 this one is better because it has a charge station right on the keyboard to charge your mouse while your not using it.]]>Jun 24th 2007 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
the main use for that keyboard, is that it's good for using on your lap to control media center in vista.

The Natural 4000 keyboard is easily the best keyboard i've ever used. I own 3 of them now. But now to be able to get that one, and the mouse as a wireless combo will be awesome.]]>Jun 24th 2007 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.techfreaks.org/reviews/nke4000/04.jpg

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Apart from the keyboard there is one thing I can never ever understand: battery powered wireless mouses. The batteries deplete at the possible worst times, and in the era of induction powered mouses i just cant understand why are they so popular.]]>Jun 24th 2007 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
And besides, I would never encourage organized crime (see microsoft's criminal record)]]>Jun 24th 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 25th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 24th 2007 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
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As you can see, it reduces finger movement drastically while remaining, where it can, similar to qwerty. It was designed fairly recently and has implementations on all three primary platforms.]]>Jun 25th 2007 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
Kinda like it makes me sad when pc makers assume I want windows on that thing.
I want to be able to see all my options in just about everything I do, not have society's inefficient, sucky defaults forced upon me.]]>Jun 25th 2007 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/A great piece of kit.

However, that mouse... utterly useless. I wish I had never spent the £40 on it.
While it IS very, very comfortable, it's so completely inaccurate to a point of being near-worthless as a mouse, which is a real shame.

For now, i'll be sticking with my ancient IntelliMouse Explorer 3000 (wired)]]>Jun 24th 2007 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 25th 2007 12:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 25th 2007 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/i need 1 of these]]>Jun 25th 2007 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
I agree with the other commenters. If you think an ergonomic keyboard isn't necessary, you either hunt-and-peck, only type for the occasional e-mail, or are mouse-bound for games. When you type for a living, carpal tunnel is a serious risk and is very painful. Ergonomic keyboards have a more natural form. The only time I have to move my hands is to reach the function keys or everything to the right of the regular keys (Insert/etc, arrows, number pad).]]>Jun 25th 2007 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 7th 2007 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 25th 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jun 25th 2007 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Jul 1st 2007 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/Sep 6th 2007 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/i would love that keyboard]]>Sep 6th 2007 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/24/microsoft-unveils-the-natural-ergonomic-desktop-7000/
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