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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[My Bad. I do see Pearl listed for 150$.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Square]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Square, start by looking at the total on the first chart and subtract "Cost /2yr" from "Cost Total."  This value is the same as "Price /2yt" (which should be 2 yr).  This is the price for a 2 year activation which includes the discounts.  For BB pearl .....$2429 - $2279 = $150.  <br><br>Also the prices are for AT&T comparison.  Not T-mobile]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Moseley]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:24PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[blackjack + 3G, ftw.<br><br>screw EDGE and iPhone.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[js]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Love my Blackjack....  but windows mobile is a real POS.  EDGE isn't that bad for mobile optimized sites - even google maps works pretty quickly.  The only time I need 3G is for tethering or slingboxing.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlieX]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[What I prefer FTW!<br><br>What other people prefer sucks.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[arthur barnhouse]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[They made a mistake. For 3G phones you usually have to get the $40 data package. The MediaMax package is only for 2G phones IIRC. I know because I got my mother a Treo 680, which is a 2G phone. The Cingular store guy said that for smartphones they usually require the $40 plan, but since the 680 is only 2G they would simply put her on the MM200 plan.<br><br>This may be one of the reasons why the iPhone only has an EDGE connection. It allows AT&T to justify the $20 data plan. For all who dont know, EDGE can actually get up over 200KB/sec in some cases. My phone is only limited by the speed of the phone, not the speed to the edge connection. I know this because my mothers Treo can browse significantly faster than my D807.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Who is this phone targeting? Most young upwardly mobiles have BB's from their companies...and consequently look for the absolute smallest personal phone they can find. Most kids / colleges students can't afford this. Companies are not going to give this to workers (think...business PC dont even come with mine sweeper) unless Apple can come with some fancy way to integrate it into the corporate culture. Also the reviews on the keyboard are not glowing. As a runner, I would not give up my nano for this phone. As a Verizon customer I would not switch to AT&T (and don't get me wrong, there is no love for Verizon on my part - they just work well. <br><br>I am sure this product will somehow work, but with a two year contract, the iPhone is no longer just an impulse item. It requires some fiscal-digestion, contracts to expire at the right time, and a desire to purchase. I will be really curious to see what happens over the next month or so...<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Homer J]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 6:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Brad: you are incorrect. The $40 PDA plan is for phones with a QWERTY keyboard. The $25 Smartphone plan is for Windows Mobile 5 devices without a QWERTY keyboard. The MediaNet plans are for phones that do not fall into the above categories (except for the Blackberries, which have their own plans). Network speed has nothing to do with it.<br><br>Any of these phones can work on any of these plans. The difference is that the MEdiaNet plans use AT&T's web proxy and the others do not. Reps are not supposed to put PDA phones on the cheaper plans, but sometimes they don't care and/or don't check to see what phone you have. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[redjen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 12:43AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[LoL ... arthur barnhouse's comment is damn near t-shirt worthy.<br><br>And true. Because I have based this upon opinion. ;]]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alba Meira]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 9:37AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Not listed above ( WTF? ), you upgrade your pre-pay "Pick-Your-Plan" for the cost of the phone, plus 20 bucks a month for unlimited data and two $100 pre-pay calling cards - for a grand total of $1420 over two years.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sorry, not doing pre-paid plans here! This is an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended), wherever possible, and the iPhone isn't pre-paid.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Block]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA["...I just got off the phone with Mark Siegel of AT&T. Siegel states that all existing iPhone customers must upgrade to a new two year contract. According to Siegel, the clock starts over regardless of whether the customer is a GoPhone customer, on an existing family plan, or so forth. What remains unclear to me is if you can buy the GoPhone and agree to the 2 year commitment for the data only."<br><br><a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/26/the-small-print-stinks-no-ipod-features-without-service-plan/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/26/the-small-print-stinks-no-ipod-features-without-service-plan/</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Who cares about EDGE and 3G as it going to be Wi-Fi all over the place? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[porkchameleon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[all this talk of wifi all over the place.. I travel a lot and look for free wifi and its not easy. you have to sign up in hotels and coffee shops. only place i know for sure its free is home and work. and I am sure in all there commercials they are hooked up to a wifi and not edge]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:06PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[True that, I'd even say you'd want to go with something else than iPhone (what a blasphemy though :) IF you are a corporate type and travel a real lot, but I'm stuck in downtown Philly, which is turning into a hot-spot over the next year or so, so... but that's just me.<br><br>Still, there's a serious talk, that wi-fi will replace all other wireless networks in the long run. Sure enough that would happen around generation 2 or 3 of given device, but the fact that I had my previous cell for a little longer than 3 years, - I'm looking for something "smart" and with wi-fi as well. And not being all-business and all-corporate, iPhone falls under do-business-and-have-fun category gadget.<br><br>Perfect for me.<br><br>Comparisons are cool and make you think, but decisions are better be made on what you really need. And of course my opinion rules all yours :P]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[porkchameleon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Tony - if you are mostly at work and home anyway, then what's wrong with just relying on WiFi in those places?  That's where you'll be most often, and then you can either use pay WiFi if you really need speed, or just use the actual phone network in-between or while traveling.  At least you almost always have some kind of data network at hand.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kendall]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 11:29PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[You conveniently forgot to add the rebate + discount you get with a 2 yr contract. I got my BB Pearl from t-mobile when it got released - paid 75$ for it after 2 yr contract. And I am paying 20$ for data extra on top of my family plan for BB Pearl.<br><br>Do your math.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Square]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually no, the 2 year plan is with current rebates and promos subtracted from cost.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Block]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ryan Block FTW!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bart Lee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[17 year olds FTL!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[brendan Sheehan jnr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 6:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like how they removed my comment from yesterday. I guess the author of the article can't handle it when shown that he is wrong. In this case he's not comparing the true cost of purchasing the phone due to the fact that he's only using 1 purchase point (AT&T online) which tends to be more expensive than other purchase points. Even more than an actual physical AT&T store. So, let's try it again, and we'll see if they remove it a second time. "You are correct. While the author did simply rip those prices from AT&T's website (including rebates), he conviently choose to ignore the REAL cost of those phone. Everyone with 1/2 a brain knows that different stores have different prices. Hell, an AT&T store has different prices than they do online. And those prices are different from buying from AT&T on the phone, and are different from upgrading your phone when you are a current AT&T customer. And then there are 3rd party stores which can have massively discounted 2yr contract plans. For example: The BB Pearl with 2yr AT&T contract is $0.01 through Amazon.com PLUS a $75 rebate. So final cost for a BB Pearl is -$74.99 with a 2yr AT&T contract through Amazon. Maybe these guys need to spend a little more time doing real research before they write another article."]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 8:32AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Square - <br><br>You got shot down, but they are all incorrect.  I have a BB Pearl through T-Mobil and AFTER tax pay 68 dollars/month with 1000 minutes and unlimited data. Take that into account and you're looking at subtracting almost 300 cost from the yearly.  Not even close boys, do more research on the available plans.  I'll even scan my bill and make it available if need be.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hagrin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 5:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[you forgot to add in the cost of 4 or 8GB of flash for the smartphones.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[This and wi-fi+multimedia capabilities, numbers are right, but when you think about what you get for your money - iPhone certainly more favorable.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[porkchameleon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA["This and wi-fi+multimedia capabilities"<br><br>They already mentioned the BlackJack.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 4:24AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hmmm...okay...2GB MicroSD=$20...so add $40 and $80 respectively.<br><br>Then to be fair, we should add the cost of a 3G radio to the iPhone, right?<br><br>and @pork:<br><br>Superior multimedia capabilities?  WM has several 3rd party players so you can play any format under the sun...DivX, OGG, Flac, whatever oddball format you prefer, and all the normal ones too (MP3, MPG, WMA, WMV).  Not to mention these have different interfaces to suit your tastes.  Now the iPhone gives you..AAC, MP3, and H.264.  Oh, but it does have the cool album flippy thing.  Totally worth the extra $300-$400.<br><br>And several of those other devices have wi-fi...so no, that's not something exclusive that makes the iPhone more valuable.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kamokazi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 29th 2007 11:57AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I just can't understand why the iPhone uses EDGE. I'd buy one if my cheapo SYNC wouldn't out pace it while browsing engadget on the run.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 3:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Not quite right on the family plans.<br><br>The $29.99/month for each additional line assumes you're getting all iPhones -- i.e. with both voice and data service. You can still add a voice-only phone for $9.99/month.<br><br>Furthermore, if you wanted the same service with a non-iPhone phone, you'd have to pay both the $9.99/month voice AND the $19.99/month data.<br><br>So it's a wash.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe V]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[My bad, I misread the chart. :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe V]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[So if one user in a group has a iphone and the other one or two lines have regular phones then it's just $10 each for the other phones right?<br><br>After seeing the Google maps on this you know they are going to put GPS in on ver. 2. I'll jump ship then becuase then it will be a bargain at $600.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually your right the family plans are miscalculated!!!  Att has changed it!    Its $69.99 for TWO lines and $9.99 for additional!!!    <br><br>It used to be $59.99 for first line and $9.99 for second.  (The plan I have now)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pkr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[@steve:<br><br>Nearly every phone with a data plan can run Google maps, or Windows Live. This is really nothing new. Yes, it has a mapping feature, but honestly REAL GPS SOFTWARE kicks the snot out of Google Maps. For one thing, the search functionality is next to useless. Try and search for someplace for pizza near your hotel in Chicago. What do you get? Nine random pizza places from across the city.<br><br>No, Google Maps (which you can get easily for any Java-enabled phone) is only okay.<br><br>Now iGuidance - that's a GPS app that you can actually use instead of an in-car GPS!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 27th 2007 9:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Where's the add-on cost for additional SMS?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[derF]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[You can do all the comparing with all of what has been provided but we all know that you can not have the "mm200" (media max 200) plan on the blackjack, treo 750 or even the 3125! C'mon engadget I know you are tying to compare the same amount of data and messages, but the fact of the matter is, the treo, and the Blackjack in any AT&T store are considered a PDA. Now the PDA unlimited cost $39.99 each month and comes with unlimited data/email and 1500 messages. (its the new plan that came out on 4/20/07) That is a lot more than the base iphone plan and the 3125 has to have unlimited smartphone connect that costs 19.99, but has mo sms/messages. to add messages you can add message starter for 4.99 and that would give you 200 messages or add unlimited smartphone connect1500 whch is 29.99 and gives you 1500 messages. now that sounds like to me that the Blackjack and the treo 750 would be more or just around the iphone. dosent it?!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[stone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Not mention that the 8525 is also a PDA]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[stone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Exactly!  The media max is cheaper because it is not as usable on a regular cell phone.  What does unlimited data mean on a barely usable phone.<br><br>iPhone WILL be cheaper!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Silas Larsen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:31PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Technically you can't have the Mediamax with blackjack, but large numbers of blackjack users have managed to get their phones working with unlimited data with that plan.  Start reading your smartphone forums.   You have to find a good rep or know how to con a stupid one to set it up correctly.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pkr]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I agree.  I have a blackjack and the pda plan.  yes i am getting 1500 sms a month, but i hardly use 200 a month.  i have 3g but surfing on that phone is crap. pure crap so i don't even do it.  google maps on blackjack is also crap as it keeps on asking if i want to have data downloaded on the phone every 10 secs (a security feature).  it doesn't work with itunes so i dont have music on it, so there goes that feature.  I am a mac user and the blackjack does not sync data unless you have missing sync ($40 i think).  Did i mention the battery life on the black jack SUCKS.  It is so bad that they give you 2 batteries in hte box.  <br>also I called at&t and they tell me I will save 20-30 dollars on the iphone plan vs teh pda plan.  At that rate the phone will pay for itself in 2 years and I will actually use it and ALL its features.<br>Also about the GPS comment earlier.  I think apple will come out with a dongle for that feature and not incorperate in the phone.  it makes more sense i think.  extra sales/revenue, better antennae reception. not every one wants that feature.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sailom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 5:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I have a BlackJack and MM200 for 19.99. It works like a charm. I tether it and often get speeds of 1.5 MBps on my laptop (3G). Dont say you CANT have mm200 on BJ. Thats what they sold me for it and said it was BECAUSE its a smartphone....NOT a PDA.<br><br>Engadget forums. A great place for misinformation. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[chadow]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 7:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually, AT&T does not allow you to use the $19.99 "SmartPhone Connect" with the 8525. The 8525 is considered a PDA phone and not a smartphone. In order to get unlimited data to your 8525 you need to sign up for the $79.99 "Data Connect (Unlimited)" plan. <br>People have signed up for the cheaper plan only to have it switched on them when AT&T decides you're using too much internet. Some people have even been charged $0.015 per KB.<br>Yeah, you can get the $19.99 plan but it's like playing Russian Roulette with your phone bill.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[thegeek]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[yeah look like 3 post up and u can see this is what we are all talking about, engadget messed up this time]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[stone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 6:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[In order to get the 2 year discount on a number of AT&T's phones, you need to sign up with their PDA plan.  At least, that is how it worked last year when I got the 8125.  I would like to save $15 a month with the MediaMax 200 plan, but it wasn't an option if I didn't want to spend $500 on the phone.  Maybe I just had a crappy rep.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Stein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[You forgot the $100 mail-in rebate with the Curve.  Plus there's something to be said for compatibility with business systems.  For example, my firm (as I'm sure other firms do) pays for the data plan on my Curve because the firm supports BB push (and Good Msging push).  So my monthly bill isn't $95 per month, it's more like $45.  For me, it's Curve ftw.<br><br>(Yes, I'm looking into whether we support ActiveSync.  But even if we do, I doubt our firm will support it because the powers that be require an itemized bill.)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like the tabular breakdown in this article... I should point out... that on verizon I have "unlimited data" (which really isn't unlimited) that DOES NOT INCLUDE any messaging... I pay 45$ for that, and that is the discounted price because I have a qualifying voice plan to go with it (39.99) whcih is 450 anytime minutes and free ngihts and weekends and free in network calling..... <br><br>After today's iplan announcements, I am expecting to see verizon compelled to responde because despite the lack of 3g networking I could switch to the iphone and save about 20$ a month.... thats 240$/year or 480$ over the course of 2 years... when you deduct that from the cost of the iphone itself, its not a bad deal at all.<br><br>My plan is to wait to see if verizon will respond to the new iplan pricing.... and also to see some initial reviews of the iphone from people not in bed with apple (this means you walt mosberg) :) as well as to see if there are any major software / activation glitches.<br><br>I also have some unanswered questions regarding syncing the iphone over bT or wifi as well as some idle curiousity as to what sustained data rates through the iphone are over EDGE and wifi.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm still confused on one thing:<br><br>Can you message someone photos without going through email?  I know this sounds dumb, but it's something I read.<br><br><br>And when can we finally change our passwords on this site???  =P]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[decypher44]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Delay buying the iPhone, as cute as it appears! Cingular told me this morning you cannot keep your existing plan and add the Iphone and data -- contrary to many pricing articles this morning. Also, at this point, Cingular is explicitly uninterested in providing wireless cards for Mac laptops. Finally, if you like Firefox --- well, it is on its way off stage.....or is it?  So let someon else buy the fishing tackle to land this baby ---- you still will have your phone and laptop and be a smirking happy camper while quickbuyers try to modulate their life and their phone bills......]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom S]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Tom - <br>Apple's website shows that you can keep your existing voice plan and add add the iPhone's data/SMS plan for $20 and up.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yikes, no wonder Americans have so much debt.<br><br>In debtness to China ftw.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[Nice graphs. Thanks guys!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[shon Dempsey]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on How does the iPhone stack up in total cost?]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/</guid><description><![CDATA[wow, i didn't realize people were spending so much. I've been spending $400 (incl. taxes) total each year and thought that was more than I needed.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[thispaceforsale]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 26th 2007 4:19PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
