http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 6:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 8:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
I, will still give Steorn the benefit of the doubt for the time being. ]]>Jul 7th 2007 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
You must be one of those exciting "round-Earthers"

Thomas]]>Jul 7th 2007 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
Its the kind of lazy, blunt symbolism western contemporary art has become.]]>Jul 7th 2007 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
Is that what science is now, giving someone the benefit of the doubt?]]>Jul 7th 2007 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
If only people demanded the same accountability from billion dollar companies the same way.
How many countless so called scientific claims and discoveries have been made regarding cancer or vaccines to cure aids for instance, yet still there is no cure.

Still that doesn't mean people have to give up hope or that scientist should stop trying to prove our current theories wrong. Why should no stone be left unturned?

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I can't believe these bastards have been doing this for 5 years! How long will it be before their 'investors' realise they've been duped?

These guys should be in jail.]]>Jul 7th 2007 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
I think everyone needs to relax, just because this didn't work you practically want to kill the guys responsible.

I'm taking an Occam's razor approach to this whole thing, nobody can prove that what they have wont work as we haven't really seen it yet and similarly we cant say that it will work!]]>Jul 7th 2007 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 8th 2007 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
I'm approaching this Orbo situation & Occam's Razor similarly to how one would argue it in regards to the existence of God. To quote Wikipedia:

"In the philosophy of religion, Occam's razor is sometimes applied to the existence of God; if the concept of God does not help to explain the universe, it is argued, God is irrelevant and should be cut away (Schmitt 2005). While Occam's razor cannot prove God's nonexistence, it does imply that, in the absence of compelling reasons to believe in God, disbelief should be preferred."

So, While Occam's razor cannot prove Orbos non-ability to produce energy, it does imply that, in the absence of compelling reasons to believe in Orbos ability to produce energy, disbelief should be preferred.

make some sense? ]]>Jul 8th 2007 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
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Other possibilities that's been mentioned:

- They are starting up a marketing company and this will put them on the map
- Halo 3 viral marketing
- Plain old scammers
- They are all on drugs]]>Jul 7th 2007 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Wait! Could it be apfel? The 2ndGen ifone will never run out of battery.
And so will new mafbooks launched with leoparfd :p
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I can give 'em a hint why it didn't work - it's called physics. Not even advanced physics either. If his team understood basic physics, we wouldn't be here in the first place. ]]>Jul 7th 2007 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
I think you hit the nail on the head here. *If* it does create free energy, the amount of free energy it would create would be so infinitesimally small that nothing could really be used from this demo. However, if it works it would really throw the engineering world for a loop since so much is based on the concept of conservation of energy.

Another thought on this is that this is really a 0th-generation technology if it works. Just like the first automobile was nothing more than a loud, noisy, dirty curiosity and the first telephone seems kind of useless when its only from one room to another, it provides an avenue for further development (just look at cars and phones now). Once that development is done, it could possibly do something more useful than just look pretty.]]>Jul 7th 2007 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
They dont work for free, their salary comes out of the comapany expediture. They also got a nice holiday to sunny London.]]>Jul 7th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
they get the investors and then spend the money on "research", which is paying themselfs a salary.

steorn ceo drives around in a porsche, with money from the investors. if he is stupid enough he can believe that he can get away with this at the end - not all scammers in recent history thad had done similar - VERY SIMILAR! almost exact 1:1 except without all the publicity - investment scams with "free energy" even had an exit strategy(which is why some end up in jail or on the run).

you, as all orbo believers, should understand the fact that there has been numerous scams that are strikingly similar, that people defended with the same stupid assumptions that nobody could be that stupid to run such a scam.... ]]>Jul 31st 2007 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
As long as they maintain the illusion that success is just over the hill, there is no way to prove that they are running a scam, and they can still ask for more money from their investors.

It's a lot like the 419 Nigeria scam. The scam would end pretty quickly if the thieves told the victim, "Ok, we put the money in your bank account," and it wasn't there.

It's an age old scam, and it's sad that it continues to work today.]]>Jul 7th 2007 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 9th 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
I can see the warning label on the machine now "Fragile Concept: Do not scrutinize"]]>Jul 7th 2007 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
lol.]]>Jul 7th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/
http://www.steornpower.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92]]>Jul 7th 2007 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/07/steorns-ceo-states-the-obvious-we-screwed-up/Jul 7th 2007 12:32PM