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Anyone else think of scubidoo?]]>Jul 17th 2007 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
However, it could've also been a reference to Astro from The Jetsons.

Rut-roh, Reorge!]]>Jul 17th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
This also means that if they ditch the activation system for Europe the same thing applies- pop in your T-Mobile USA card and you're off. It's worked on loads of other Euro T-Mobile phones.
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The iPhone, as I understand it, does not open and does not contain a sim card as we are used to seeing on regular GSM phones. Good luck. Apple is the best at keeping their hardware and software on lock down. Don't count on them risking a breach of their exclusive contract with AT&T in the US buy building an iPhone for Germany that can be brought to the states and used here.

Ryan]]>Jul 20th 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
btw. I never really understood why we call mobile phones "handy"...]]>Jul 17th 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Handy
- looks like Philips is responsable for "Handy"]]>Jul 17th 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://iphonevote.com

Only takes 2 seconds and maybe we can turn the tide.]]>Jul 17th 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
The Visual Voicemail is nothing more than a data driven application service sitting on a GPRS APN (which also works on EDGE or UMTS).

What does this mean? T-Mobile Germany Visual Voicemail (once they do launch iPhone) will work perfectly on T-Mobile USA with a T-Mobile Germany SIM and a provisioned activated iPhone. If T-Mobile is allowed to keep this phone carrier open as they normally do -meaning T-Mobile networks allow ANY T-Mobile phone to work with other T-Mobile SIM cards from other T-Mobile networks then T-Mobile US users are set. HOWEVER T-Mobile USA does NOT support visual voicemail for THEIR users. So even if the SIM lock allows T-Mobile USA SIM's Visual voicemail will NOT be available - as T-Mobile USA doesn't offer the service.

I would suspect though that Apple may require T-Mobile Germany to only allow SIM access to T-Mobile networks in Europe as I'm sure Apple not knowing the score likely gave AT&T a clause that non-USA handsets won't be SIM unlocked or allow SIM use from competing US networks. If that is the case then DON'T cry to T-Mobile - go after AT&T and Apple for limiting users ability to use an UNSUBSIDIZED device.

BTW: Some European Countries by LAW don't allow SIM locking of any phones sold in their countries. I wonder how that will play out with iPhone. Such countries generally don't subsidize handsets either.]]>Jul 17th 2007 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
So keep dreaming T-Mobile users. You might be able to at least make phone calls on it, haha!]]>Jul 17th 2007 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Jul 17th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/
Also in regards to T-Mobile and locking the iPhone...

I'm pretty sure it will be locked to only T-Mobile Germany customers, so T-Mobile USA customers wouldn't be able to buy one. Apple wants to do things their way, and if they can't get it done their way, then they won't do business with a potential carrier. It seems harsh and...well, bitchy, but if they were able to get AT&T to cave into their demands, then what's to stop them from thinking they can't get other carriers to do so?]]>Jul 20th 2007 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/iphone-briefly-appears-on-t-mobile-germanys-website/Sep 18th 2007 9:52PM