http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Try the veal!]]>Jul 18th 2007 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 19th 2007 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Anyway, I know it's the height of lazy, but I'd rather watch anything on my couch than at my desk chair, risking carpel tunnel, but only if the interface is as user-friendly and dynamic as that of a PC (TiVo's is a good example). And when those pipes widen, we'll all want to take advantage of our sweet 50" 1080i's.]]>Jul 18th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Plus the fact that they're already low quality doesn't make them any more enjoyable on your TV.]]>Jul 18th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Now it's all political or video blogging or the same goddamn sports clip submitted by 10 different people and somehow ALL getting on the most viewed page, anime episodes that have been cut into 3 pieces or some stupid MTV music video, some stupid video that is using a stolen video to advertise their own site.
The quality has seriously turned to crap.]]>Jul 18th 2007 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Methinks, YouTube and similar services are like forums, they exist to spend boring time in the office, or to get distracted from boring college homework.

IMHO, YouTube will always remain a thing for a "laptop browser". There are much better content to watch on a big screen (including game consoles), so here I agree with Jeremy Toeman.
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btw @ Zarniwoop
since when is using the word 'apple' three times in an article make it an apple commercial? that is 3 out of exactly 1,193 words, 1 utterance for every 398, or 0.25146689019279128248113998323554% of the final composition.]]>Jul 18th 2007 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Here is the funny thing about words; what matters is WHAT they say, not how many times they say it. When you say something like,

"Excepting the Apple TV, not one of these solutions is what you might call elegant"

you really do end up sounding a bit like a commercial. It wouldn't even matter if you only mentioned Apple once. If that one mention is in a sentence that says that Apple is better than anyone else in the world, then it sounds a bit more like ad copy than serious journalism. Especially since Apple's solution to the problem doesn't particularly differ from anyone else's solution to the problem, and as such isn't really any more "elegant" than anything else out there. Any time you have the typical Engadget spin where putting an Apple logo on something automatically makes it more elegant, well thought out, beautiful, fun, and easy to use, it comes off like an add.]]>Jul 18th 2007 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/ You can actually view DVD quality video on there AND the videos download as fast as your connection can handle. If you forget about the content of YouTube and compare the two sites, YouTube pales in comparison.]]>Jul 18th 2007 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Stage6.com is better than Google Video's quality because that one works with up to high definition resolution and no limit in Bandwidth. I wonder if Google is planning to add this DivX quality to all Youtube videos, I wonder if Google and Youtube has kept all the original files that were uploaded by all the users during the past couple of years on their services, if they have kept them, then they could re-encode better resolution, better bitrate and release those using the Mpeg4 DivX codec which would be suitable for the lean back couch set-top-box experience.]]>Jul 19th 2007 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Yeah.. that'll rock...

(no, it really won't)]]>Jul 18th 2007 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
I'm on a 22" widescreen at the moment; at the office I've got dual 22s (haha, sounds like I'm talking about rims on a car) and they're all run at max-resolution.

I have to literally- lean IN to watch youtube videos on the flash 'widget' on the page. If I want to sit comfortably I have to make them full-screen, which is a BAAAADDD idea. Pixelated beyond belief.

It's a mixed bag. People want their entertaining entertainment, then they want their _real_ entertainment. Youtube fits in the first category. The latest MGM/Touchstone/Paramount/Disney film, the most recent episode of your favorite primetime show, and bootlegged copies of both of the above apply to the second category.]]>Jul 18th 2007 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.eternal-champions.com/images/den_football_madness.jpg
YouTube x 5 (or 4 Youtube and 1 PornTube in the middle ;^) Now thats entertainment!]]>Jul 18th 2007 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
h.264 really IS the greatest codec going today.]]>Jul 18th 2007 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/ The fact that I can go to a website and choose from a long list of programs that actually intrest me than someting that i'm just watching because its on the box is a big deal.
The quality might suck now , but a lot of these online video sites are doing DVD quality so its a non-issue. It's just a matter of time.. like a year or something.]]>Jul 18th 2007 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
In fact a perfect example of a well-implemented cross-interface is TiVo. It is (or can be) very much a lean-forward activity but is presented attractively and more importantly, functionally in a clean 10-foot interface.

AppleTV unfortunately was not created as elegantly and it suffers, like many other devices that try to bring lean-forward to the 10-foot domain.

I don't write for anyone or contribute weekly columns, but I'm available for consulting work.
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A laptop can substitute for a television; but only when a substitute is required (airplane, road trip, sitting long hours on an Ikea chair in your bedroom until your children finally fall asleep). It's a convenience.

And the thought of channel surfing on TV is almost a thing of the past. You only watch what you want to watch when you want to watch it. If you want to channel surf, you head over to youtube and play the game.

There may be a convergence in the future, but it won't just be figuring out the technicalities of getting the content to the couch dweller; somehow the experience itself has to be tuned in and turned on.]]>Jul 18th 2007 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 18th 2007 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 19th 2007 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 19th 2007 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=AN2vgK8e3BGiaYyXy6ky6g]]>Jul 19th 2007 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 19th 2007 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
The 360 has a perfect font size within its interface, viewable from even the furthest couch. I really wish Sony would at least offer an option to increase the size.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
were not talking about dashboards here, were talking about media capabilities.
The browser font CAN be changed. anyone who owns a PS3 can tell you that... as well as being able to zoom into any page you visit (which is actually VERY functional compared to the 360's brow.... oh thats right...)

Tversity, nero home, wmp11 all stream to my PS3 perfectly as well.

Lets not forget we can always "Lean Back" after
booting up Linux, set our resolution to whatever, and continue "leaning back" as we dont need to head back to the PC in the other room"

man sony really screwed up with their design there huh?

]]>Jul 22nd 2007 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 22nd 2007 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/See we just pull up the pants and,
Do the Roc-a-way.

Now lean back, lean back, lean back, lean back.]]>Jul 21st 2007 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/
Vin De Bona & Bob Saget should get royalties!]]>Jul 21st 2007 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 23rd 2007 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 24th 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/18/ins-and-outs-does-youtube-fit-on-the-boob-tube/Jul 28th 2007 7:29AM