http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft not delivering Vista SP1 "anytime soon" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 20th 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 20th 2007 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
The "resource hog" argument is MS hater FUD.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
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Other than that, I've honestly had almost no problems with Vista. XP was 10 times buggier when it came out, and Windows 98 was 10 times buggier than that. I'd say Microsoft has come a long way.

Then again, this story just stinks of Flamebait, so here we go.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Forget about Vista. I'm doing fine with XP SP2. I don't need all that silly animation and glass transparency BS. If I want to see an elegant, and fully operational OS, I just turn to my right and work on my Macs. They're a bit old, but still behave like the classy ladies they are.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 20th 2007 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
The rumour: http://www.gadget9.com/2007/07/10/windows-vista-releasing-service-pack-1/]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
SP1 is not Vienna though.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 23rd 2007 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Do the reactionary flame bait posts actually contribute to the corporate bottom line?
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I've been having more problems on my mac reciently than my Vista box.

The 10.4.10 update has caused my machine to panic about every 10 minutes.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Example - When Win2k was released, any changes to the IP stack required a reboot, after SP4 (if memory serves) you could apply the same changes, and while it still prompted for a reboot, you could say no, and the changes would still apply immediately.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 20th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Math:

-3 OSX updates @ $125/each over 5 years=$375 over five years
-1 Windows update @ $300 each over 5 years=$300 over five years+free service packs

When you get down to economies of scale, Apple and Microsoft are doing the exact same thing.]]>Jul 20th 2007 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/I'm overall pleased with the rate problems are being solved in Vista, however a Service Pack idea is a bit flawed. But I can live with my Vista PC at the moment, so I'm good.]]>Jul 20th 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 23rd 2007 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 26th 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
You can either get a new router, or go back to .9 instead of the .10 update.]]>Aug 15th 2007 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
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What it boils down to it the video card. As people upgrade to video cards with greater then 128MB of VRAM and hardware manufacturers get their collective shit together all this will get ironed out.
Personally I welcome this delay. The reported fixes in SP1 were really meager at best. A delay suggests they are doing more with it. Personally I'm hoping for a refinement in the graphics subsystem and the amount of disk thrashing. These two things alone would allow older systems to better deal with Vista. My Thinkpad T41 with 32MB of VRAM would have ran is perfectly fine if it wasn't for the HD continuously getting the crap kicked out of it by the OS...even though I had 1GB of RAM it didn't make any difference. Vista was using it like a punching bag. On my MacBook Pro? The OS flies. ]]>Jul 20th 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 20th 2007 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
"We're not journalists we're just bloggers who just happen to get paid for reporting things we find."]]>Jul 21st 2007 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
--- CHAS]]>Jul 23rd 2007 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 24th 2007 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Jul 25th 2007 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Thank goodness for XP64. That "outdated" OS works like a charm with all 4GB.

And for anyone who's interested, here's a good thread for you to check out:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1292561&SiteID=17
]]>Jul 26th 2007 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/I'm also using Vista and haven't encountered any problem that gave me an headace.]]>Aug 15th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/Aug 22nd 2007 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
IMHO XP SP2 was the best OS MSFT ever released! And the second best software behind the ultimate Excel. . . you can do anything with it!

I don't see why you need to spend all of that money for a minor update.

I've since switched to the Mac. It does what I want to do and I don't have problems with it, nor do I have to "tweak" it to get it working right. I can't say that I am missing Vista.

And as for the $125 "service pack" updates . . . that's ridiculous. You don't have to upgrade to continue to get support, you can remain on the older version and upgrade with your hardware. Although with each new version they do add lots of new features. Just check out www.apple.com/macosx]]>Aug 15th 2007 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/microsoft-not-delivering-vista-sp1-anytime-soon/
Firstly, I liked the Aero stuff - quite nice, navigation through explorer is a bit sluggish and another learning curve (but I can change it to the old style)
Secondly, Vista is far more secure - UAC (User Account Control); annoying, yes. But at least you know that you are controlling critical changes.
Thirdly, DX10, although you'll need the GPU to run it. I am a programmer and DX10 rocks!

However, Vista needs this service pack - I do not know how the beta testers didn't find problems, or 'why' Microsoft would release an OS that has so many annoyances (never learn, do they)

I am not arguing the OS war, I use Vista for DX10, games and .NET programming. I dualboot with Linux for my programming stuff) and I use an iBook for my video editing and Flash stuff - all of them are VERY VERY good at what they are designed to do.]]>Sep 29th 2007 5:21PM