http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/ Engadget Comments for Security Ring denies intruders when you're away http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
The problem with biometrics is not that they aren't unique, it's that the computer that is comparing them can be easily fooled. A computer can't tell the difference between a photograph and a real person because they look the same to the computer.

Honestly, all you do by requiring multilevel authentication is add a little tiny bit more difficulty in cracking. The reality boils down to the fact that biometrics offer no security advantage over passwords. The only way biometrics become secure is if you position a real human guard to watch and confirm the authentication so that fooling the computer becomes very very difficult.

Now if you talking about casual theft of a personal laptop, multi level protection may protect the contents, but for real security (ie Corporate or national) it's a joke.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/I think that's a pretty good idea, it's simple, it's secure, you must be alive, and you don't leave copies of it on everything you touch.

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Screw the ring!

J-]]>Jul 20th 2007 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
Anyway, my major problem with that ring is that it just downright looks like crap.]]>Jul 20th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
It's just my 2 cents on this product.. it's been done already, without having (too much) more hardware.

P.s., I didn't name the s/w because you guys might think I'm a sales rep for those guys or something ;)]]>Jul 20th 2007 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/i've seen usb locks with keyrings which lock the computer when i goes out of range of a few meters, basically doing the same thing, but costly only £10 and doesn't mean you have this massive metal ring which will be big and heavy coz presumably there will be a battery inside it
]]>Jul 20th 2007 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
I may have to give it a try for my laptop! :D ]]>Jul 20th 2007 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Has been a while since I've used it though.]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
On the BT connections, you can have it set up so that the PC is locked whe you are out of range. I do recommend it as a PC remote

Blimey, I do sound like a sales rep now, but you guys are pretty interested, I guess ;)]]>Jul 20th 2007 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
Wonder how often that would happen.]]>Jul 20th 2007 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Ed
web/gadget guru]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 20th 2007 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
There have been similar rings in use for 10 years or more, since the first JavaOne conference put on by Sun in SF, circa 1997. I still have one of the original rings jostling around in my junk drawer.

http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/ibutton/

The only difference is the "lock down distance" done wirelessly, which, as others have noted, is also not new.


]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/
http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/ibutton/solutions/product.cfm?ID=249
]]>Jul 20th 2007 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://sitecom.com/product.php?productname=Wireless+PC+lock&productcode=CN-129&productid=293&subgroupid=2
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Biometrics have come a long way in the past 2 years. Ceelox.com has biometric based security software that never stores an image of your fingerprint but rather an algorithm that represents the minutia points of your finger. This renders the chance of spoofing to 10 to the 7th power. Even if someone were to hack the algorithm the system would detect the exact number being fed as a spoof. Also the latest scanners will measure your finger's capacitance which is going to read your finger's electrical charge...a replicated finger with a lifted fingerprint will not give you access anymore. A hacked off finger won't work either! ]]>Jul 23rd 2007 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/And about the '2002' quip, surely if something is bad in the past it doesn't become suddenly great a few years later (except for fascism maybe..)
And using keypoints is what's always been used. And capacitance? that is never constant so that's BS, lie detectors work partly by measuring difference in capacitance while you speak, so it's so inconsistent it can't be unique and so can easily be spoofed if you try to use it in fingerprint scanner.
]]>Jul 20th 2007 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 23rd 2007 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/The technology advances in the last 3 years with finger prints is pretty amazing. And your statement that key points have always been used is slightly inaccurate. Whether we are using an AFIS system or a non AFIS system, yes we are looking at the points on a finger print. But the big difference is with the older scanner type systems, the ones that work like a copy machine. They kept pictures of your finger print and matched them based on the points on the print but were actually comparing the pictures.. The new systems now don’t take pictures of your finger. They use a mathematical mapping of your finger that is encrypted. Even if you could hack the encryption and somehow get the formula, an exact copy will not work. The software is built to look for slight variations, in other words exact matches don’t match. As for your capacitance BS statement, well that is what it is BS. It is not a lie detector test, it is not looking for changes in capacitance, which is what a Polygraph test looks for. It is looking for capacitance meaning whether you have it or not. Can you fool it yes if you want to take the time and try to create an electric charge, sure. Or you could blow up the system you are trying to steal info from. But that is really not the point. The point is this. I could spend weeks coming up with a way to fool your biometric finger print device. And it would take weeks. How long is it going to take me to figure out your password. 5 min with freeware crackers. Maybe less if I really know what I am doing. It is like having an alarm on your house. If I am a burglar I am probably going to hit your neighbor’s house that doesn’t have an alarm, because it is easy.
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Activate! form of.. Ice Menorah!]]>Jul 20th 2007 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 21st 2007 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Jul 25th 2007 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/20/security-ring-denies-intruders-when-youre-away/Please help!


pc security]]>Aug 14th 2007 1:04AM