http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 24th 2007 3:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
AFAIK, Boston is first but I would expect most of the NE will follow soon afterward.

And to the guy asking about lifetime subscriptions: I have no source other than hearsay posted every time a story like this is posted, but it ain't gonna happen. I know the whole point was to pay up front and never have to worry about it again, but I think all you lifetime subscribers have got your money's worth by now.

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What part of 'lifetime' don't you understand, p-diddy? The money's worth argument doesn't hold water. As long as I am alive and kicking, I shouldn't have to pay for the Tivo service. That is what I, and all of the other lifetime subscribers, signed up for...and I expect there could be a breach-of-contract issue, if Tivo understands any differently. ]]>Jul 23rd 2007 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
I'm a Series 1 SVR2000 owner. Everytime a new version of the tivo comes out, I always get an email from TiVo, with an "exclusive offer" to switch my lifetime sub over to their newest DVR. Since I have no real compelling reason to switch and my Series 1 is still going strong after several large HD transplants, CacheCard/Turbonet, TivoWeb, etc. Yeah, my lifetime sub has paid for itself over and over again, but I did pay for it. So I expect to keep it until my TiVo smokes. If TiVo expects me to upgrade, that's something they'll need to deal with.]]>Jul 23rd 2007 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
BUT, it kills me when I see people want to transfer their lifetime subs to new boxes every time a new TiVo machine is announced. It just comes across as milking.

*shrug*

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I'm fairly certain it was for the life of the box, not of the customer. The only reason they've been so generous with upgrades is that they can't really afford to lose customers (even if you're not paying, they like to think you're evangelizing).]]>Jul 23rd 2007 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
I'm going to wait to see what the TiVo software on Moto does. If it is in fact just a program guide and not the actual recording/user interface software, I may jump on the TiVo HD. $800 plus fee for the first one was crazy expensive, but I can deal with $300.

Maybe.

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I'm really considering getting into tivo hacking over this whole "nontransfer" thing.


BTW, "TiVo HD" is an arbitrary or fanciful mark that identifies the source of goods. It is therefore a trademark at common law. It is likely to cause consumer confusion with the usual "TiVo" mark, but they can federally register the new "TiVo HD" mark because it is commonly owned with the "TiVo" mark. In other words, from the moment they use the mark, they already have trademark rights, and they might even already have preliminary rights, because, I'll bet that if check the federal register, you'll find "TiVo HD" under an intent to use registration.]]>Jul 23rd 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
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The fact that Tivo has allowed you to transfer it ever is a gift from them in excess of your contract with them. Get it?]]>Jul 23rd 2007 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/]]>Jul 23rd 2007 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 23rd 2007 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
Links 404 at https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxdetails.do?boxName=180hourtivohd&boxsku=R65216]]>Jul 23rd 2007 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
What needs to be answereed is what is meant by "Best Buy will have the retail exclusive on the external drive"?

1) When eSATA is enabled only the Best But drives will work, disabling the drive I have now attached?

-or-

2) Best Buy will be the exclusive retailer for TiVo branded eSATA drives.

Anyone have info on this?

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USB ether and then WiFi were both originally released as backdoors before tivo finally began officially enabling them (via osd) and then eventually selling hardware (tivo wifi adapter).

I don't think sata will be any different. The current backdoor is available for the devoted/experimental, next the software will enable it for the public at large, and eventually the tivo branded drive will be released to make it extremely simple for those not comfortable buying their own drive & enclosure/worried about compatabilityetc.]]>Jul 25th 2007 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882641225
which I have been looking at.
Also since the phillips is a one time fee where the tivo your locked in. Any light on the subject would be appreciated.]]>Jul 23rd 2007 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/
When you ask TiVo owners why they like their TiVos it comes down to the software on the box. The box itself is decent, but usually could have a few more bells and whistles (or processors for network traffic), but it is the software that people are paying money for. That's why in my comment above I say I'd like to see what is on the Comcast DVRs that will run TiVos software. What amount of TiVo-ification of the Moto box is what will drive my decision to or not to buy the TiVo HD.

I can't speak to what the device you liked to does because I've never used it. It looks like a HD version of a VCR, which is not a bad thing, but based on the one review of it, I'd be concerned about taping over something which is a non-issue for the TiVo.

Hope that helps.

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http://www.dixiesbbq.com]]>Jul 23rd 2007 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxdetails.do?boxName=180hourtivohd&boxsku=R65216
]]>Jul 24th 2007 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/And will Tivo get in the race toconvert analog households to digital in 2009?
Do they beliave in broadcasted HDTV? I am looking for clear answers - because consumers will..

Best / Anders Bjers

Blog: dtvbrief.wordpress.com]]>Jul 24th 2007 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/23/tivo-hd-dvr-is-the-newest-series3-tivotogo-coming-back/Jul 24th 2007 1:12PM