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Developers developers developers developers.]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://developersdevelopers.com/]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
I'm not a mac fanboy
I'm not a PC fanboy

I don't have anything against MS per se but they have been churning out crap lately. I'm not saying Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, XP were perfect but they weren't crap.

Recent crap releases by MS -
Vista
Zune
Exchange 2007 - (they forgot to include gui management - welcome back to dos/linux administration)
Office 2007 - not control of menus, no native picture support in access, only one outlook profile at a time
IE7 - nuff said
WM6 - BT stack is actually WORSE than WM5

Bring back Bill, bring back Bill!]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
"By the way, I run Vista because I don't know any better. Allow me to showcase my ignorance by stating that I don't see any problems."]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Seeing other peoples problems does not equal personal problems. I'm running Vista too, and it has performed wonderfully for me.

I don't see your logic. Because someone else has problems with Vista, everyone does? How about "because I don't have problems with Vista, nobody does." Identical.

Then again, life is meaningless to you, so it shouldn't matter whether or not an OS performs. ]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Not sure why you say the new BT stack in WM6 isn't any good. I have had just the opposite experience on my HTC Hermes with the semi-official WM6 ROM. Music sounds great now, much better than previous A2DP implementation.

Also, I have even written some code using BT and have experienced an increase in data transfer rates as well as overall system robustness (i.e. no lockups, etcs.).

Please explain how you came to your conclusion.]]>Jul 27th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Though the obsession with quantity is worrying (as pointed out by another comment), generally large quantity sales happen either because the product is well marketed (which, frankly, no computer products are really. Have you seen those UK Intel adverts? Ugh.) or because it's good. Since most people are like 'uuugghhh Windows' because of bugs, I make the following statement:

I would say that, in my experience, no Microsoft software is any more buggy than any other large-scale modern software (games, apps, tools, etc.).]]>Jul 27th 2007 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Vista - I admit, not too much a change over XP, but it's still awesome, and running on high-end hardware, it's great.

Zune - There are many Zune fanatics out there. And Zune has some of the features iPod doesn't have. Most people have never actually 'tried' a Zune to really get something out of it.

Office 2007 - Are you kidding? This is like the best quality office suite out there. If you can't figure out the UI, you must really be a dummy. Most of your reasons are really petty - little stuff anyone could complain about

IE7 - I admit, not too outstanding, but huge thing over IE6, and it performs better than FireFox in many areas. Phishing filter, extreme security in Vista, better tab features, other stuff. It can be extended anyway just like FireFox too. The people who really hate it, either are average not-so-smart users, and developers. IE8 will be sure to fix that.

WM6 - Did you hear many people wanting it? New looks, new features, any Windows Mobile fan loves it. Most people don't know it, but Windows Mobile provides a better phone OS than most other ones. In terms of functionality.

You forgot to mention some stuff coming from Microsoft Research that's really making a hit across the web: Popfly (big thing over Yahoo! Pipes), Silverlight (better than Flash), PhotoSynth (changes the way we view pictures), DeepFish (better internet browsing than anything), and a bunch of other cool Microsoft things like Xbox, and so-on.

So Microsoft being a failure is in the eye of the beholder. Unfortunately, mis-information seems to get to the public real quick.




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i was on the fence about vista, but your proclamation that it's "great" has really shown me the light. and what's with the "Windows Mobile fan loves it"? actually, you're right, there's gotta be some fan of WM out there somewhere, and yeah, (s)he probably loves it.]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Considering that Macs do get viruses (and Apple patches it at a slower rate than MS), Windows actually works too, and Windows is as easy-to-use as it gets. And I happen to love both PC's and Macs. I just can't stand the lies about each side.

And about WM - You'd be surprised to know how many people prefer WM over Palm and others. There's been recent articles about how WM is becoming a hot and trendy phone OS. Like Samsung BlackJack and T-mobile Dash? WM is well liked because of the functionality it offers. Now if only they made WM phone screens bigger...]]>Jul 27th 2007 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
"Considering that Macs do get viruses (and Apple patches it at a slower rate than MS)"??? I've seen one virus in the wild for OS X, and it required you to open the file. Apple got a fix for it together fairly quickly. There are proof of concept viruses, yes, but they're not actually a threat to anyone, and thus Apple doesn't really have to panic and patch ASAP, they have time to figure out a less-rushed solution. But if you've seen Macs getting viruses, by all means, share. I've never encountered one in all my years of OS X, and I'd think it would be big news, like the first ever wild virus that I mentioned was.]]>Jul 27th 2007 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
But I digress. w00t! I love my Vista box. It's like a Mac, except I can actually do something useful with it . Unless you consider fueling my fantasy as a successful blogsmith while editing movies of my cat with a starwars cup on it's head as useful.

And.. resume Windows bashing..]]>Jul 27th 2007 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
I may be showing my ignorance, but I don't believe I can get an office suite for Mac nearly as robust and powerful as Microsoft Office. Seriously.

That's what I mean by something "useful". Something I can get paid for in a business world that isn't centered around "graphic design".]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
well you know what they say, admitting a problem is the first step towards recovery.

david, you're right. no one has ever written useful software for the mac that isn't 1) net surfing, or 2) graphic design. nothing. ever.

hey david, you should go hold a one-man protest on street corners about how useless macs are. with any luck, microsoft will have a monopoly-level dominance of the software market and sanction developers and vendors for providing competition. oh wait...]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Erm, the first two items you mention, I do hope you realize, are DESIGN products. CAD *design* software. So, either you don't do anything useful (because what you do is centered around -design-), or you consider one form of design to be more useful than another, because it's the kind YOU do. Cos it uses a third dimension (which of course other design can do as well, but whatever). But yeah, there's a ton of CAD and 3D software for the Mac. I did ask to mention something the Mac couldn't do (even if you didn't personally have the software to do it), and it can do those things.
I had to look up DAQ because I don't do it, but the first link I saw said 'DAQ software for the PC, Mac, and Linux'. So it does that too.
I'm not sure why it is a shortcoming of a Mac that Microsoft Office for Mac is a little different that its Windows counterpart; it's a Microsoft product. Honestly, NeoOffice is good, but I am not sure what features you think Word, PPT, or Excel lack in the Mac (other than recent version upgrades that will be coming soon).
I do more with my computer than surf the net as well; I'm not sure where in my mention of database and diagram tools you would infer otherwise. All of the Unix admins, application developers, and engineers I know use Macs. But again, what is it that you can do 'in the business world' that can't be done on a Mac? I can do the same job I get paid for on a Mac or a PC, and I don't do 'graphics and design' for a living.]]>Jul 27th 2007 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
You mean besides Microsoft Office for Mac? The one that has been available for about 15 years?]]>Jul 27th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
I use Windows daily at work, although I have owned Macs my entire life. In fact, these days I use Windows far more than I use Macs simply because I practically live at work.

However, occasionally I do take work home with me. And here's where I get to make my point: Office on the Mac is far far better and more stable than Office on Windows. Isn't that pathetic? I work with insanely huge Excel files on a daily basis and I am under constant time constraints. So, it's really helpful to me when Windows Office completely chokes on a 100mb workbook, and then takes 10 minutes to recover. However, the same file on my Mac opens without a problem every time.

I have to admit that although Windows is far more clumsy and buggy than Mac OS, there are more challenges for Microsoft to face in the execution of getting the OS onto the machine. I'm sure that takes a good deal of their resources. However, the GUI is just not as good. The way the OS handles files is equally poor. Case in point: Program files. WTF is that nonsense all about? Talk about annoying as hell. And you'd better pray to god that the network printer doesn't take a shit on you, otherwise you'll be nice and hung up for a while.

So, I'd like to make the suggestion that perhaps Mr. Clark enjoys blowing smoke out of his ass, and doesn't use both operating systems, and is therefore completely unqualified to make the statement that Macs can't do useful things. The majority of us realize that both are in almost every respect the same. One has a better GUI, one has a lot of games (crappy and otherwise). ]]>Jul 27th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Well, you are quite blatantly showing ignorance there. As others have pointed out, Microsoft Office has been available on the Mac for well over a decade. A simple Google search or asking a question would be enough to answer that question for you, but instead you've gone the route of uninformed Mac-bashing, which is exactly what makes Mac users so rabid at times. If you actually checked out facts instead of assuming Macs are awful without knowing anything about them, your comments probably wouldn't get so much retaliation from Mac users.

Also, overused argument as it may be, note that Parallels, Crossover, and Boot Camp all allow you to run Windows/Windows programs, so software-wise, there is nearly nothing your PC can run that my Mac can't. We can do the best of both worlds, so don't go arguing that Macs can't run anything useful.]]>Jul 27th 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 28th 2007 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Well...the Zune is a flop.

What about Vista do you not like? Is it because you don't know how to use it? It is different from XP but you have to know use it the way it is meant to be used.

Try Vista for Dummies...]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Vista has a problem with file copy, moves, access that is well documented. It is NOT a drive issue, it is NOT an indexing issue although since that is poorly implemented if you leave it on it WILL slow down your performance further, it is NOT a networking issue as the issue occurs even on local disk copies. This is well documented and current belief is that this may be a result of the DRM game MS is playing these days.

I've verified it quickly after I discovered the issue by setting up several PCs of identical makes to each other (different brands and models one vista, one XP each with a matching twin using the other OS) all with all the latest patches, drivers etc, turned off indexing, firewalls, antivirus, every extra available and file transfer is random as to size and quantity of file copies. MS took 5 months to admit they had the problem - I reported it as soon as Vista came out and they insisted that it had to be a firewall, driver, or other issue I hadn't optimized on my end - only after thousands of similar posts by journalists did MS even look into the issue. MS had to know about this when they released the defective product but wanted to make the release date.]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Do you know anyone with a Zune? I don't.]]>Jul 27th 2007 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Doesnt mean its a flop. Do you know anyone with a 360? I dont.]]>Jul 27th 2007 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
If people continue to think that iPod's are the only good PMP's (portable music player) out there, then the public will continue to use iPods. If the whole slogan "It just works fine for me" seems to be common when iPod users are asked why they prefer it. It's started to be the American fad to own an iPod (because they were the first of it's kind), and so people just thought they just 'had' to get one.

Sadly, that means most people are not willing to try something new, or even take a 2nd glance at anything that could be better. Now the Zune doesn't make a real ideal iPod switcher, but it does have some of the stuff that hasn't been available in iPods for so long. WiFi, FM Radio, larger screen, etc. You may not use some of it, but better than no feature at all.

I just want people to get it right. Most people aren't bothering with it, just because it's not 'cool', most people aren't even trying to like it, and they listen to reviews that could be as biased as anything.]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Don't kid yourself.

The Zune isn't even a player among wma daps. Yeah, they moved a million of them. The market sold about 50-60 million in the same time. That's a success?

The 360 has decent market share. But it is getting blown out of the water by the Wii. The 360 doesn't even outsell the PS2. How sad is that? And the real kicker is that the 360, like the xbox will NEVER be profitable. Microsoft has lost billions with that division.

I love how Ballmer and Microsoft blasted the Wii. Guess they were wrong about that.

I love how Ballmer and Microsoft blasted the iPod. Guess they were wrong about that.

I love how Ballmer and Microsoft blasted the iPhone a few months ago. Considering Apple will surpass Windows Mobile sales in about six months, I'm guessing they are wrong about that too. Windows Mobile is a distant 3rd, behind Symbian and Linux. They'll be 4th shortly.

See a pattern here?

This is what happens when your only qualification for CEO is being a college friend of Bill Gates.

Ballmer has no technical expertise. He has no management expertise. And he has no visionary expertise.

Vista will sell because of the installed Windows base. Same with Office. But not because the products are better or innovative. Microsoft is kind of like a toilet paper company now. You don't run out and buy the stuff because it is "new and improved." You buy it because you have a need and the product fills the need. ]]>Jul 27th 2007 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
I can barely stand using windows any more after being a primary freebsd and OSX user. You shouldn't have to read the entire program interface to see an obscure button, or dig through a menu thing that was hidden in an entirely obscure area.

Try browsing around in the filesystem in windows, Good God, Whoever designed it needs to have their balls torn off and thrown into a pillar of flame. I think I will go tear my eyes out if I see another vista machine.]]>Jul 27th 2007 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Seriously. How hard is it to figure out a point-and-click interface? Just because you can't figure out "start" was replaced with a logo doesn't mean an operating system isn't any good.

I had no problem transitioning to the new office and Vista interface.]]>Jul 27th 2007 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
I suppose that does explain why Ballmer looks like Uncle Fester.]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/Jul 27th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/ballmer-says-windows-installed-base-will-top-a-billion-by-the-en/
Three out of how many people? I think roughly a quarter of people I see on regular basis have iPods, and absolutely no Zune. Most people who don't buy it usually buy some Korean branded players or are given some off-brand players as a gift.

I don't have anything against the machine, but people just aren't buying it around me (of course, I do agree that anecdotal evidence is weak, but hard numbers show the likelihood of one knowing someone with an iPod).]]>Jul 27th 2007 4:09PM