http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/"Only about 125 desktops *AND* laptops currently meet the new stringent requirements. " (emphasis mine)

That's not a large number. It doesn't seem many in the industry are well prepared for this move; or if they are, they're keeping the products for later. And with rampant speculation about new iMacs and possible Macbooks before the year is out, I don't think Apple is any more underprepared than any other OEMs.]]>Jul 27th 2007 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
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And, I really wouldn't care if Apple's Pro models didn't meet the requirements come January either. I think it's nice that Apple stays near the top of the environmental scale, but Apple shouldn't cut off its feet to spite its green nose. You want Apple to stay successful? Let them exercise eco-friendliness in moderation... like everyone else should.

What next? Are we going to attack Steve Jobs for not driving a plug-in hybrd? You can mod your Prius to do so today... so should we bash Jobs for not having one already?

- Christopher Price
http://www.phonenews.com]]>Jul 27th 2007 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
Apple says their going to be more greener, then we want to see bigger results. After all, we want to make sure Apple isn't greenwashing, right?]]>Jul 27th 2007 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
However, going green isn't something that should be taken lightly. It's a very serious problem. Don't go slipping in to the "I can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist" trap. The US in particular has been very lax on climate change, so I'm glad to see regulations like this that try to do their bit. ]]>Jul 28th 2007 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/]]>Jul 28th 2007 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
He bought it, he can do what he wants with it, it is his option. How would you like it if I told you how to use everything you owned, whether you liked it or not?

Get over yourself...for all you know the guy turns off the EnergyStar options on his new laptop but generates his own power from solar and uses a composting toilet.
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These meet Energystar v4.0 (this latest spec): mini, pro quad-core, macbook, macbook pro
These meet Energystar v3.0 (the previous spec): pro dual-core, imac
The criteria for monitors was not updated, and Apple's monitors meet the old spec (January 1, 2005).
The new spec does not apply to servers like the Xserve line.]]>Jul 27th 2007 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/]]>Jul 28th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
But yeah, honestly, given how bare this list is, and that some of the companies who have a much more diverse product line than Apple have only one or two items, it doesn't really surprise me that Apple's stuff isn't there yet.

I am curious though, if that list is just machines that have gotten certified or whatever yet. The reason I ask is that, looking at the list, I can't see why a lot of those Lenovo ThinkPads are there but a lot of comparable Dells are not (why isn't the Dell Latitude 630 on there, for example?).

I suspect somehow that this is an incomplete list, and whichever companies don't have anything or much there yet, it doesn't necessarily reflect which of their products actually qualify. ]]>Jul 27th 2007 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
This story is about Apple's Energy Star compliance, not Mac OS X vs. Windows, or the iPhone vs. some generic WinMo device. Please enligthen me... what does that have to do with the topic?

P.S.: It looks like you're running low on haterade.]]>Jul 27th 2007 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
I'm pretty sure every mac owner understands that they could get a PC for hundreds if not thousands of dollars cheaper. PCs are everywhere and they're not going anywhere anytime soon. You're beating a dead horse in this respect.

I have to say, though, that it's a pleasure to work with software that has requirements of "OSX 10.x or later" instead of "2 GB RAM, 1 GB SD-RAM, Direct X 10, 4x DVD-ROM drive, various 3rd party apps, Microsoft .NET Framework...." The point you make about "of COURSE it's going to work better if they designed the software for the hardware" is exactly what Jobs is getting at in his business model. It's such an elementary concept that you proved its simplicity just by trying to use it as an argument!

You ask, "but does that make it better?" and you'd be surprised to know that, contrary to your opinion, it does make it better. In fact, it's a bit ridiculous to think that it wouldn't make it better. I ENCOURAGE microsoft to start building their own computers! Windows Vista would go from the size of a DVD disk to the size of a 3.5" floppy from not having so many friggin drivers and hardware compatibility requirements! I would actually even switch back to a PC if microsoft starting building their own computers because you're right, it would be FAST. The fact of the matter is that, at this point, it's not happening and PCs are nothing but bloatware and ticking time bombs to become obsolete.

It's amazing how some friends of mine get new PCs every two years or so because, regardless of how fast they are out of the box, they inevitably become sluggish and impossible to work with. I mean, really. Remember when you first got your computer with Windows XP, and you noted how the Start menu popped right up instantly when you clicked on it? Now do you notice how those days are gone and the Start menu takes a good 5 seconds to pop up? On the contrary, my friends with 4G Powerbooks are still running smoothly and are showing no signs of needing a new computer.

In the end, the choice is yours, but hating on Apple's business model based on false information is a bit excessive.]]>Jul 28th 2007 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
A high-end/mid-range PC, Windows Vista, anti-virus program works just as great as a Mac.

I would know because I happen to use both. I've had a Sony Vaio for months with Windows Vista, and I've had no problems. No viruses, no slowness, no bad AERO, it just works quite nice.

So if you just get a high-end/mid-range PC, it should be different to the Mac in terms of hardware, nice design, and specs. Just my .02.]]>Jul 28th 2007 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
btw, I will run XP until I have no choice but to "upgrade"]]>Jul 28th 2007 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
btw, I will run XP until I have no choice but to "upgrade"]]>Jul 28th 2007 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
Enjoy that Vista system running nicely for the time being... what be the case in about 6 months. Whereas my 7 year old PowerMac G4 runs BETTER and FASTER than it did the day I got it out of the box... gotta love a company that knows how to actually optimize system resources rather than bog them down.]]>Jul 28th 2007 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
All of Apples laptops are compliant with the new Energy Star spec, as well as the mac mini and the 8-core mac pro.]]>Jul 27th 2007 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 27th 2007 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
Of course, I don't care. I still have a houseful of gadgets.]]>Jul 29th 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.apple.com/environment/resources/specs.html

The EnergyStar website is out of date.]]>Jul 28th 2007 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
I love engadget as a whole, but come one, sometimes you have to think before you type.]]>Jul 28th 2007 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/
Seriously, since EVERYONE has to do it and according to Apple's website they already are, why single them out in this post??
Most computers sold are not even from Apple.
Are we now going to have five engadget articles saying 'Current dell/Apex/Microbits machines don't meet new EnergyStar requirements'??
Sheesh, give me some real news engadget, this, is not news. Finish high school, come back and have another go...]]>Jul 28th 2007 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/27/current-apple-machines-dont-meet-new-energystar-guidelines/Jul 28th 2007 9:01AM