http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
in any case, this is some seriously bad news for palm, even speaking as a palm-friendly treo user...]]>Aug 5th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
As a person who's treo 650 is starting to have trouble with his space bar (an early indicator of an eventually fatal keyboard condition) I have one and only one question:

Does it have wifi?

Really. Thats all. Gimme wifi and barring other vast engineering stupidity (like locking third party apps out) I'll buy one. No wifi and I walk.


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They can call the Logitech wave keyboard beautiful, but they call this ugly? It looks practical, and I personally don't have any problems with its design.

Not everything has to be "buttonless" in order to be well-designed.

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-Treo700p owner]]>Aug 5th 2007 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
Probably people who don't buy things just because they see other people with them.]]>Aug 5th 2007 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 6th 2007 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
If I had to make a guess, this looks like an entry level low priced model which would better fit the 690 nomenclature as opposed to something like 800 which would be 'above' today's models.]]>Aug 5th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
any company that would put out a device with buttons that tiny... has lost it's connection to what made it successful in the first place.

..even a slider would have saved this phone.]]>Aug 5th 2007 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/I hope this thing is cheap...

As a long time Palm user, the direction of the company and its products is pretty disappointing.]]>Aug 5th 2007 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
To actually comment on what it looks like, it resembles a child's toy.]]>Aug 5th 2007 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
Who are you kidding? If that thing had an Apple logo on it, everyone would be salivating and praising its beauty.

Seriously, the keyboard and screen may be small, but the design is certainly not an 'abomination'. In fact, I like what I can see so far.
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Nice try. That thing would never have an Apple logo on it.]]>Aug 6th 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
live with it, guys. not everyone thinks that this new treo is as ugly as your Engadget slavemasters or the most vocal PIC and Engadget posters.
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Well done sir!]]>Aug 5th 2007 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 6th 2007 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
You know, the Palm Vx was very sleek and thin for its day. I don't think Palm has ever come back to that brilliant form-factor milestone. A real shame.]]>Aug 5th 2007 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
I have a phone with an on-screen keyboard (Motorola A1200i), and guess what? It does everything any other smartphone does, with half the size.]]>Aug 5th 2007 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
You may have convinced yourself that your onscreen keyboard works as well as a real one but you won't convince others. This device was obviously not meant for you. Who it was meant for I have no idea.]]>Aug 5th 2007 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
Craig, perhaps you haven't actually tried the iPhone, at least for any longer than 5 minutes with a demo unit in the store. It take a day or so to get used to, but it's highly capable.]]>Aug 6th 2007 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
For ppl not using Palm Gandalf, that was oh I'm sorry, this keyboard sucks.]]>Aug 5th 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 6th 2007 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 5th 2007 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
And sadly, I'm in the market for a phone. Looking like I might have to go to the Openmoko Neo 1973 for a "decent" form-factor with wifi...]]>Aug 6th 2007 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/Aug 6th 2007 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/05/more-blurry-pictures-of-the-palm-gandolf-the-treo-800-series/
It's like THE 500.

"Here they die."]]>Aug 6th 2007 8:53AM