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Besides, what's the point in hydrogen cars? First, electricity must be harnessed via solar cells, then converted into hydrogen via electrolysis, then put into the vehicle. Then, the vehicle uses hydrolysis, to convert it to water and electricity. Electricity is then stored inside BATTERIES and used to power the vehicle.

Electric cars (if built well) can be recharged at any 120v outlet, then will simply store the electricity in the battery until it needs to be used by the vehicle.

Hydrogen cars just add an extra step... paying for hydrogen from Shell, Chevron or some other current gasoline company.]]>Aug 16th 2007 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
Telsa is the one to watch, their technology is highly innovative and highly scalable (using induction motor and common stock lithium cell with individual monitoring circuit), they need not invent the wheel (they got Lotus behind that), once pass the developmental stage, with shrinking electronics, it is just going to get better.]]>Aug 16th 2007 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
However, in a perfect world, there is no real difference between the two, but it's still much better to pay $1-2 than $10-20 for the same mileage, eh?

Not to mention hydrogen cars simply cost more because you're paying for batteries and a fuel cell. The engine is electric.]]>Aug 16th 2007 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
Hydrogen would be even worse on a long trip, you'd have to actually plan your trip around either A) finding more hydrogen fuel stations or B) bringing extra hydrogen tanks along with you.]]>Aug 16th 2007 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
Shell, Chevron, etc. are not in the game unless you stop in to fill up with water or need to use their restrooms.

Go blue oval!]]>Aug 16th 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
I stated that both HYDROGEN AND ELECTRIC cars both use batteries. When the hydrogen is 'burned' to create electricity, the excess energy is stored into batteries until needed. So, if your fuel cell busts and your battery busts... say hello to several tens of thousands of dollars in repairs!!

Electric cars at least have one less thing to fail. Skip the hydrogen car, electric cars are much better than hydrogen cars will ever be.]]>Aug 16th 2007 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 17th 2007 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
Have you ever driven a fuel cell vehicle? I have and they're indistinguishable from a regular vehicle. Even a full-size Silverado pickup truck drove the same.

I'll trade instant refueling and less weight from batteries as a much better option over electric-only vehicles. As for refueling options, once up on a time you didn't have gasoline stations everywhere either.

And the Hindenburg only went up in such a blaze because it had highly FLAMMABLE paint on it, not because of the hydrogen.

The upside to fuel cells is definitely serviceability. They're designed to be FAR more interchangeable than anything in a gasoline engine. And they weigh a heck of a lot less than batteries.]]>Aug 19th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
HYDROGEN CARS USE BATTERIES.

They use HYDROLYSIS to CREATE ELECTRICITY. The ENGINE is ELECTRIC. The only difference is that you're using a different fuel to POWER THE BATTERIES. THE BATTERIES PROVIDE A BACKUP.

Christ almighty, does anyone listen?]]>Aug 19th 2007 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 17th 2007 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/

Have we all forgotten the Hindenburg incident?]]>Aug 16th 2007 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/

Actually it wouldnt burn in the air, the proper word would probably EXPLODE.


Explosion > Burn
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As for hydrogen, it is an energy transfer medium, with a relatively high mass/volume to energy ratio. It allows you to easily transfer energy from solar/bio/geo/fossil/whatever energy source to your vehicle in a relatively quick and easy manner, not 4-5 hours, and it doesn't "wear out".

And while hydrogen fueling stations are hard to find, so are electric ones. The point isn't that one is better than the other, but rather that both have strengths and weaknesses, and both are far more appealing than the current transportation solution. Only oil-company executives should be so quick to condemn.]]>Aug 16th 2007 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://freeenergy.ca/news/117/ARTICLE/1370/2007-05-21.html

No need to worry about the tank exploding, just pump in the water and have it pass over the aluminum as needed. Then recycle.]]>Aug 21st 2007 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/Aug 16th 2007 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
CA08X]]>Aug 20th 2007 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/16/ford-fusion-hydrogen-999-breaks-200-miles-per-hour/
OK not really, but I'm illustrating simple cyclical economics here folks. The more fossil fuel demand that is displaced at Time 1 (by hydrogen, electricity, tree sap or whatever), the cheaper the dirty stuff becomes until fossil fuel demand increases back to its original levels at Time 2. Good old crude is here to stay until it's all burned up. ]]>Aug 20th 2007 5:34PM