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However, I feel this would fair much better if it were to be advertised as a 'hip, instant on, reliable and cheap, take anywhere and throw around ultraportable notebook' for the college crowd, and mobile writing enthusiast.

Advertise it as such then, as a feature, list it's treo connectivity. I mean, if you look at it as a stand alone product and get past the negativity surrounding it, it really does seem desirable, no? Did I mention it's one of the nicest looking $499 ultraportable slim-feature notebook around? I wouldn't mind being seen with it in public, at least they have that going for them.

Sure, it's not extremely powerful, but one only needs to give the illusion of power (take the iphone for instance, the interface sells it) which it appears to do somewhat well. And, by it's release, it should be able to complete 95% of what most people use there computer for anyway (referencing wikipedia and porn.. ok not really). Plus(!) it's built on a linux platform, so expanded functionality shouldn't be too far away (if it succeeds).

Oh well, what do you think.. am I missing something here?]]>Aug 22nd 2007 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
Palm needs to be put out to pasture, plain and simple! It's like watching a geriatric patient on palative care, clinging to life.]]>Aug 22nd 2007 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
How can you have syncing issues between your own products? This may mean the product never sees retail shelves.
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Thanks for the info]]>Aug 30th 2007 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 22nd 2007 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
I NEED something that is a convenient in-between those two devices!

I mean, doesn't anyone else have this problem? At all?








(Just kidding: The Foleo sucks. I can't believe anyone is really interested in this piece of crap.)]]>Aug 22nd 2007 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
It's like spending millions of dollars on an online music service exclusively for the Zune. You are hitching your wagon to a dimming star Palm.

Nobody wants this product. Fix the damn Treo... I'm giving you guys until the holiday season at which time my 700p goes away and gets replaced with something that can actually browse the web. ]]>Aug 22nd 2007 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 28th 2007 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/people doing the same thing. One bought an Iphone the other a
blackberry 8800 and I bought an HTC-8525. The only reason Palm exist
still is because HTC and Palm have an agreement to manufacture phones
for palm. Palm's processors are too slow. The designs are old and the
software is bugy. I love the form factor of the Treo, but that is not
enough to sell me!Compare a Palm phone to any HTC phone and palm
loses. Foleo in african means warrior who ran with the lions and won
the race only to have a monkey flatulate in his mouth at the finish
line.Goodnight palm. 3G-Iphone will be your pallbearer and AT&T TILT
will be your priest! Rest in peace Palm and my your bastard stepchild
Foleo finaly find its home in hell with his transvestite
sister/brother, the Palm Gandolf!Enjoy hell Palm, You earned it!
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2- it's not a umpc
3- its not a phone
Why would any1 want to carry another device. CONVERGENGE people CONVERGENCE!
I'd rather an olpc]]>Aug 22nd 2007 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Whither Handspring...]]>Aug 23rd 2007 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 2:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.profoleo.com/]]>Aug 23rd 2007 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/Aug 23rd 2007 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
This is the market that the Foleo could serve well. Inexplicably, this isn't the market Palm seems to be targeting, which is unfortunate, as UMPCs are finally within a year or two of finally getting cheap, simple, and reliable enough that people won't need this anymore.

In short, I think the Foleo concept is genius, but if they don't get it right this time it will be too late.

With the pricetag of a modern laptop and an inexplicable "mobile companion" sales push, things are not looking good.]]>Aug 23rd 2007 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
Could you imagine if Apple came out with a flash-based subnotebook like this, running a stripped down OS X similar to the iPhone? Now that would be a sweet mobile machine...It might actually be nice enough to charge the $499 or $599 that Palm wants for the Foleo.
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But I do agree that the Treos and Foleo need major rework! I mean there's one thing about taste, which Apple/Steve Jobs and Co. are good at. But com'on Palm, is it so hard to have a decent redesigned Treo that has glass and aluminum? And the current foleo design just screams cheap plastic!!! Don't bother waiting for your new OS to have new hardware...Just Release the hardware and make the OS upgradeable! The time it took Apple to do the iPhone, you guys sat on the same Treo design...you've only removed the NOB! Where's the R&D?!?!?! Where's the managment in this!?!? As agonizing it is for us, what's it like on the inside? Like pulling teeth?]]>Aug 23rd 2007 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/ Com'on Asus... bring out the EEE and put the Foleo out of it's misery.

According to Asus (see Endgadget's note http://tinyurl.com/2vuelk ) the EEE is coming is September.
]]>Aug 23rd 2007 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
The only concerns I have are:
1) will the foleo retain the simplicity of the palm OS?
2) will the pricetag put them in competition with smaller laptops, which kinda defeats the purpose behind the foleo?
3) why in the HELL aren't they positioning the foleo as the palm pilot of laptops instead of selling it as a 'companion to smart phones?']]>Aug 23rd 2007 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
That covers about 95 percent of what I need. I'm willing to wait, come on Palm, I've been using your products for over a decade, and they are still better overall devices than Windows Mobile, Smartphones, and iPhone.

Malcolm Marler]]>Aug 23rd 2007 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
Figure it out Palm, you're dying!!!!]]>Aug 23rd 2007 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
for me, this would be great for installing an apache server and running it as a php/mysql dev environment, instant on is something no mac or windows notebook can compete with.

the problem is the $500 price tag. don't think so, not ever for that price. make it $299, and sure, perhaps. until then, I'll deal with NOT instant on notebooks with MORE power, that I can get on ebay for like $150. ie compaq n410c 12" ultraportable not much larger but with 1.2ghz p3 and like 1gb ram.]]>Aug 23rd 2007 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
I'm posting from my Foleo right now. This thing is addictive. It's convenient, bloody more convenient than my Thinkpad was before it caught fire. I used to check my email out of necessity but now I actually kind of enjoy it. Really, this thing isn't full of innovative technology or even anything we haven't seen in one form or another before. There's no real rhyme or reason for it, but I genuinely enjoy this product. And so far, so has everyone that came to the demo events or seen me use mine in passing. The Palm Store in my territory gets daily inquiries about it from people chomping at the bit. This thing is a little grey diamond in the rough. Is it going to fly off the shelves and go into production droughts like the Nintendo Wii? Probably not. But it's not going to flop, at least not without a fight. Now, I'm going to go check my work email and catch up on Homestar Runner.]]>Aug 23rd 2007 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/palm-foleo-delayed-amid-criticism-on-development/
PDAs/smartphones are small and convenient, but at times it's handy to have a full-sized interface. Yes, I can see this filling the same kind of niche the Journada/TRS-80 portables used to sell to. If Palm can follow through with iPhone/Blackberry compatibility, it could be huge.

I just hope the damn thing works the way it's supposed to.]]>Aug 24th 2007 11:52AM