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"It doesn't install a rootkit. It's a registry value that Rootkit revealer gives you a notice of. Just like every file that your Spyware detector pings on isn't neccessarily a trojan. This ISNT a rootkit, just a nasty registry entry."]]>Aug 25th 2007 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Still looking for that gadget blog where the writers know what journalism is.]]>Aug 25th 2007 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I've got administrative access... which means I get to do whatever I want to the system...

I've got a registry key... which I can't delete... I can't view... I can't rename... I can't do anything to... under my administrative access... where I'm supposed to be able to do whatever I want to my system...

...how is that not a root kit? it might not be a traditional root kit... but it's still a root kit...]]>Aug 26th 2007 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
You seem to not know what a rootkit is. You can change registry information using regedit.]]>Aug 27th 2007 2:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
You seem to not understand the issue at hand. The rootkit installs registry entries which you, the administrator, cannot remove using regedit. There are other programs that accomplish this same thing, such as VX2 and CoolWebSearch. Both of those are malware that are purposely designed to be difficult to remove. The issue at hand is that a company should not be allowed to purposely design an application that the administrator is unable to remove using normal tools.]]>Aug 27th 2007 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
That's the last time I'll be buying a non-Valve product on Steam... Although Valve certainly deserves some of the blame for this, as they could've easily prevented this by simply refusing to distribute software that doesn't utilize Steam authentication. I'm sure that had 2K refused, they would've lost money, but is losing their reputation instead worth it?]]>Aug 25th 2007 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Activation wise... 5 times, in the life time? That is ridiculous. What if after 5 times of system reinstallation caused by the SecuROM screwing up the system, and they won't activate it anymore and assume everybody, even the legit owners are thieves?

It's like, forcing we the consumers to use the "other" copies and methods.]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I'm not in the habit of uninstalling every piece of my software if I need to reinstall my computer, and I'm never going to be.

I've got a "base image" of my computer with only the bare minimum software install on it. If my computer gets badly messed-up, I just restore the backup image and ready to go. I'm not going to play silly games with publishers who treat paying customers as criminals, while the pirates bypass all of their activation schemes.]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
But then, our open source fps games are a bit behind the others. They'll catch up quickly, though. Give us one year.

--that's what dual booting's for.]]>Aug 25th 2007 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Read _all_ the articles and info before publishing with ZOMG headlines, willya... please? ;)
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Not worth risking system stability just to play a game. Games with SecuROM or other intrusive techniques are an automatic thanks but no thanks for me.

Isn't it ironic how the pirated copy is much better than the original because it doesn't require the original "game disk" in the drive and more importantly it doesn't fuck up your system?]]>Aug 26th 2007 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
IF THEY HAD NOTHING TO HIDE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HIDDEN IT


There is no mention of it installing undeletable files/keys NOR activation limits until AFTER you have bought it (in fact not even then really).

The demo dropping it's payload was bad enough (worse actually cos it was totally unexpected) but PAYING to have their infection is insane. My copy still sits here uninstalled.

]]>Aug 25th 2007 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
"Consumer got Ooowwwnnnnned!"

...how about not.]]>Aug 25th 2007 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Last time I checked that was trading stuff in for money, damn sure that I've never seen a company 'pawned' on the internet.

If you're gonna use slang, use it right damnit!]]>Aug 25th 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Thanks for warning us. Bye bye Bioshock :)

I'll pass the word along to others not to touch it. I don't even want to see their apology. They knew perfectly well what they were doing.

eol for them.
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buy a 360, its a great game. :)]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/sony needs another spanking
]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I had the DVD all ready to be installed till I found out about it. No way am I putting that thing on my PC.]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
DRM is another topic altogether, but please try to get the facts right.]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Noted. If they /do/ pull that rootkit crap again, this is what's waiting for them. I hope they are very keenly aware of that.]]>Aug 25th 2007 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/pc_faq.html

Look at the 14th Question (or just scroll down).]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 27th 2007 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
Congrats 2K games. You just lost a customer. I hope you lose a few more because of this ineptitude.]]>Aug 25th 2007 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
What pisses me off is that this kind of stupid, destabilizing, intrusive technology isn't even needed. You can make a much softer protection scheme to keep people from copying it freely, like non-hidden registry keys. And you can't keep out the hardcore hackers no matter what software you use.

So SecuROM et al are putting our systems at risk for no reason other than the limitless stupidity of some exec somewhere. ]]>Aug 26th 2007 10:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I think that's hard to beat. Even got a blu-ray drive, I mean- as long as you know your 09f9's and 45f5's, I think that is one heck of a deal.]]>Aug 25th 2007 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/1) Put together a cheaper PC that has better support for software and games
2) Have graphics acceleration on that PC
3) Can have a Blu-ray HD-DVD drive.

That sounds like the better deal to me.

Hell, my gaming PC isn't even as much as the PS3, and I bet it's better at graphics than it too!]]>Aug 26th 2007 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I am in favor of the flexibility and modularity of a pc, make no mistake. I think the entire idea of a game console is complete crap. I just figured it may have been crap I could have taken advantage of.]]>Aug 26th 2007 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/Aug 25th 2007 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/25/sonys-back-for-more-running-bioshock-drm-with-a-rootkit/
I wonder if a site like Engadget can be held liable for slander for reporting a story like this without checking its facts? You know, one of the central tenets of journalism?
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