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Poor Kari, Hope ya had it removed after the show..]]>Sep 9th 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
Mans arm explodes and bursts into flames, Sony Sued over faulty batteries.]]>Sep 9th 2007 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
No thanks!]]>Sep 9th 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
You should have gone smart-card, that's what I'm doing.]]>Sep 9th 2007 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
Othello: i don't where ring so that option was a no no]]>Sep 10th 2007 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
I just cant understand these guys.]]>Sep 9th 2007 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
they wouldn't want to lose all that money on pesky health issues. it's far easier to placate people by lying.

we WANT to beleive our technology is safe, and we'll do whatever it takes to beleive that.

the only reason this gets any play is that no one uses these thigns so they don;t really care about admitting they could be dangerous.

publish a study like this about cellphones and everyone would freak out and call it a lie.]]>Sep 9th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
If it was an active transmitter then I might think that there is a slim chance that this studies conclusion might be true, but this has nothing to do with it being a microchip. It has everything to do with it being a foreign object under the skin.]]>Sep 9th 2007 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
And to say that there is only a slim chance of something happening after someone does a study that says something does happen is arrogent. Sure, it will take someone else to reproduce the results to prove that this is true, there is nothing that says or doesn't say that someone else will get the same results. Let's not jump to any conclusions before someone has a chance to check things out.]]>Sep 10th 2007 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Iris recognition systems are fine enough, or someone can still your eye? (I believe fingerprint can be stolen.. even with finger, but not the eye) ]]>Sep 9th 2007 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 9th 2007 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/
None of these studies using rats and mice used controls. They can't be used to prove causality.

You can't apply those results to dogs, cats, or humans. The headlines that are saying something like "RFID may cause cancer" are misleading. It's similar to those "Patients in Peril" reports about the use of cell phones in hospitals.

Pets have been chipped for over 15 years now, with no tumors reported, AFAIK.

Conspiracy theories don't contribute to certainty about this question.

http://billkosloskymd.typepad.com/wirelessdoc/2007/09/questions-arise.html


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My first reaction is always skepticism, until I'm presented with an argument that will convince me. It's called the null hypothesis.

What type of study would it take to prove that RFID causes or doesn't cause malignant cancer in humans?

You could get into a long discussion about perception of risk or opinions, but in the long run it doesn't increase your knowledge base.
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The near future will see a great number of medical wireless implanted devices and sensors. If the public's immediate reaction is that "They said that causes cancer," it puts the manufacturer in a difficult position to prove that over decades of use, this or any other adverse event will never happen, at least no more than what normally occur without the device.

Still, the public should seek out and be given all the known information before making a decision.]]>Sep 9th 2007 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/Sep 10th 2007 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/rfid-implants-linked-to-cancer-in-lab-tests/http://billkosloskymd.typepad.com/wirelessdoc/2007/09/case-study-of-b.html
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RFID is only active when it is being queried. You receive much more radiation from flying a plane or using a cell phone.

Any implanted object can trigger a foreign body response which looks a lot like cancer. Biocompatible materials minimize this but the body will still usually encase objects in a layer of tissue to seal it off. I've still got a splinter in my hand from middle school to prove it.

If it is in fact cancer, it is probably from a faulty seal in the packaging, potentially exposing the body to harsh chemicals from the fabrication process.

Next why don't you post a story on how people with pacemakers need a knob coming out their chest to adjust it (this one goes to 11?). Yes, pacemakers use the exact same communication method as RFID, albeit more "dangerous" because it needs a battery to keep the heart going. Hey at least sony doesn't make those, right?

Have all the arguments you like about whether its a good idea for society to get an ID tag. Just don't scare people to get your point across. There are still plenty of legitimate uses for the technology.]]>Sep 9th 2007 7:06PM