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I agree with you. I'm happy that Apple came out with the iPod Touch, but if they are going to cripple it just to show the distance between the iPhone and the Touch than us consumers are going to want that functionality a will very well get it with people like who hacked the iPhone. The iPhone wasn't hard to hack, so it most likely wouldn't be for the Touch either. Most likely it will be only a matter of time when hackers will have cracked the Touch once it's out.]]>Sep 10th 2007 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
as for time, I give it 1-2 days.

it's not hacked yet becuase it's not out.

once it's out it'll probably be really easy to hack, if the same methods used for ipone don't work, I'm sure they'll only need a few changes.

I for one am still rockin the original xbox with xbmc as it kicks the crap out of xbox360's media functions.
I ahve a feeling ipod touch hacked with iphone software + homebrew will be just as cool a device.

there's a lot of iphone homebrew NOW, and that's with a 1 million unit base with only afew hackers.

now coders worldwide will ahve access to the device platfrom via ipod touch.


let the homebrew begin]]>Sep 10th 2007 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 11th 2007 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 11th 2007 2:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
out of the box vs hacked will be 2 different things.

like xbox vs xbox with xbox media centre (xbmc).

I look forward to the touch not becuase of apple, but becuase of coders/hackers.]]>Sep 10th 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/i and still a year away from being able to get out of my verizon contract, so i was thinking really hard about getting a touch. But now, this is a deal breaker. I really thought that we had ourselves here a really great PDA. This is just going to be a neat looking ipod, and really, my 4gig first gen nano is doing just fine. I will wait a year for an iphone...]]>Sep 10th 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Instead, it's just a red-headed stepchild to the favored iPhone. But at $300-400, "What man would want you now?" *shakes fist*]]>Sep 10th 2007 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
I think a lot of people will still want it, and the removal of this feature won't be nearly as big a deal as we're making of it here. Most of the people I know (i.e. non-techies and/or Apple fanboys) have no clue that their iPods can store calendar entries or contacts, and won't care if the iPod touch can do that. It's definitely a nice feature to have, but I think the number of people who will still upgrade to an iPod touch from their nanos will far exceed the 100 people or so on this board who are canceling their orders and telling Apple what they think. Most people want a simple, cool, reliable media player that will work easily with their computer and their files - the iPod touch will do that and more, and they'll be happy.

Since Stevie J's return Apple has consistently tried to keep their product line simple and well-defined, with little overlap onto their highest-margin products and clear upgrade paths available. This seems to fit right into that pattern and I don't see anything out of the ordinary here.

All that being said, Apple should've 1) been consistent and either kept open or locked down *all* data entry on the phone, instead of keeping Contacts open and Calendar closed, and 2) should not have changed the feature set after the product was released and orders were taken. I'm surprised they were so sloppy about this - it doesn't jibe with Apple's normal polish.]]>Sep 11th 2007 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
But that, I submit, is narrow-minded.

For those of us who can't get an iPhone (contractual obligations or non-Americans), this could have been a gateway product ... a place-holder.

We've all been waiting for a device like the iPhone, especially Apple users who've never had a fluid experience with a PDA or smartphone. But most of us can't get one. Or at least not yet.

Apple, get an iPod Touch into our hands with everything the iPhone has except the cell radio, and you've got us hooked. And by us, I mean potentially tens-of-millions of people.

Then, when the iPhone becomes obtainable, I along with most every other iPod Touch owner, will jump at the opportunity to ditch our cell phones. And those who don't will have a very good reason ... but will still own an Apple product and contribute to the Apple ecosystem.

As it stands, even my bargain-basement phone allows me to add dates to my calendar and syncs up delightfully well with my mac. And SmartPhones, with the help of PocketMac et al, are becoming finally useful for Mac users. So, in the meantime, if I want some of the functionality of the iPod Touch, I will have to go shopping for a different device. And that'll probably run on Windows Mobile Something-or-other.

Silly, really. Seems like a lost opportunity.

Winston.

@ PK: You're right, most people don't use their iPod contacts/calendar functions. But that's because they're only half functional. Without the ability to add contacts/dates, your phone suddenly becomes more useful.




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Apple... seriously, I'm willing to fork over some serious cash... but I really don't need an iPhone for at least until my contract runs out (at least another 18 months... and I'm still not convinced I can deal with AT&T) My phone works, and I just want an iPhone without the phone (I'm happy to dump the camera AND bluetooth as for the 8GB of extra space (I get it... a fair trade off IMHO).

To put it VERY frankly... going out of your way to disable features is very Microsoft of you. IT'S A CALENDAR!!!]]>Sep 10th 2007 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 27th 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Stupid from Apple. Really stupid.]]>Sep 10th 2007 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
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A ssh client would also be nice ..

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hackable for sure (and quick let's hope)]]>Sep 10th 2007 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Sure, it has the fundamental tech to do this... but it's still an iPod. If Apple were to release a PDA or Tablet-esque portable it'll be in it's own product catgory... or with the iPhone.

it's the iPod Touch... not the iPDA Touch. And as Engadget point out - they have to draw a line int he sand between the Phone and the Media Player, or totally canibalise their sales.

Even though every man and his dog is clamouring for the iPhone in Europe (well, anywhere outside the US), the device still has to be attractive to the carriers... or they risk alot of outlay to get their tech in line with Apple's (visual voice mail, whatever else Jobs demands) only to have people passing over the Phone for a cheaper iPod.

If I hear another dick talking about VoIP on the Touch i'll vomit.. unless I missed the bit in the tech sheets where there is a mic included in the iPod.]]>Sep 11th 2007 5:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Also, it seems to me like Apple is starting play MS games. Yeah, you need to draw a line in the sand between the iPhone and the iTouch, but isn't that $100 difference in price the ability for calls, SMS, bluetooth?

Bum'n,

Z]]>Sep 10th 2007 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Why remove the smallest little feature just to deviate the product lines enough to alienate your customers?]]>Sep 10th 2007 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
predictions:
1. input for calendar
2. input for contacts
3. Mail client
4. Touch based games (through iTS of course)
5. Notepad (syncable with the leopard mail client)
6. iChat

Some sort of RDF and catchy tagline like 'the best music player also does PIM']]>Sep 10th 2007 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
We've been hearing about that "Oh, missing features will SURELY be added in upcoming versions" thingy ever since the iPhone came out...]]>Sep 10th 2007 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Which if for nothing else will stop the pulling of said device off the table as you answer the phone with white earphones attached.]]>Sep 10th 2007 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
You would think Apple would want everyone of these people to carry an Ipod Touch, as a companion to the phone, fully loaded with music, videos, contacts, appointments, Safari, and all the Apple goodness.

The inability to add appointments WOULD be a deal-breaker for me. I was proclaiming that the Touch would kill the PDA dead once and for all... not it looks like it falls a little short.

(also posted at TUAW)]]>Sep 10th 2007 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/
Besides, how many people actually USED the calendar feature on their iPods? How many used it on their iphone? To say that you're going to cancel your order over something as small as that is BS, because I really wonder why you are buying on in the first place.. to play music or add calendar events!]]>Sep 10th 2007 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 10th 2007 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/10/apple-confirms-ipod-touch-cannot-add-appointments/Sep 19th 2007 9:27PM