Keepin' it real fake, part LXXXI: New iPod nano clones unveiled, thanks China
By Paul Miller 
posted Sep 23rd 2007 8:05PM
posted Sep 23rd 2007 8:05PM
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It's kinda sad that a cheap fake like this has more features than the real thing.
Sad, but true.
Someone make a better ipod touch please.. Shouldn't be too difficult.
It's because these Chinese manufacturers don't discriminate. They'll let their product play any format that's out there. You're not gonna see iPods playing WMAs anytime soon.
What is sad are companies that steel intelectual properties without beeing called to account for by courts AND consumers as they encourages them to produce such fakes!!
What is sad are people who don't know how to spell "steal" correctly :/
@jay-t
in this case, I really dont think they are hurting apple's bottom line. pursuing them for an award would almost certainly cost more than it would bring in.
@john
meizu is coming out with an m7. a ipod touch rip-off.
I cant wait :D
@ DAZA
People like you, criticizing misspellings and off topic, are really sad! Are you a teacher? Have you never mistyped a word?
I could tell DAZA or anyone else defending fake (such as its features etc) are chinese. Stop changing the subject. What China needs to do = quit copying, make your own. @Detox= more features? yea maybe such as FM, or recording. But in crappy quality(FM,rec), crappy UI, crap material.
Here's what's happening in China: 1) Japanese and Korean gadget, phone
and car makers release sleek, innovative new devices or vehicles
domestically in Japan and Korea. 2) Chinese rip-off companies buy
one, and return to China where the whole thing is copied.3) The
Chinese companies sell the fake version domestically in China. 4)
when the original is finally sold in China, Chinese consumers think
the original is a counterfeit of a Chinese original, since the
Chinese phone was sold first, and are OUTRAGED at the copyright
violation. Counterfeiters cost legit companies about $600 billion per
year and growing fast, and the overwhelming majority of it happens in
China.
For information on "Chinese piracy" (and the scope of its impact on
the global economy), check the following links
out:http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701150004.htmlhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/24/keepin-it-real-fake-part-xxxvii-china-car-makers-strike-again/http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611240009.htmlhttp://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701160009.htmlI
have TONS more of these!
Here's a video clip on the "rampant chinese piracy" from the Japanese news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBMc9Z5od8Highlights
(for those who can't speak Japanese):
- A copy of a car tail light: the original says KOREA on it, while the Chinese copy says KOBEA. The other major difference between them is that the Chinese-made light is not properly sealed and can fill up with rain water.
- Korean consumers tell reporters that it is very difficult for them to tell if brand bags being sold in shops are the real thing. - A Chinese company is selling copies of a Korean beer brand. Six months after a South
Korean company started selling a new motorbike, a Chinese company suddenly began selling an copy of the vehicle. While the outside appearance is similar, the Chinese-made bike's engine apparently breaks down within its first year of use.
- A Korean employee of a major golf goods brand states that he is concerned that Chinese/Taiwanese copies are having a negative influence on the image of his brand.
Sources:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701150004.html
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/24/keepin-it-real-fake-part-xxxvii-china-car-makers-strike-again/
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611240009.html
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701160009.html
Wow, that was fast.
I'm surprised it took them this long.
I'm sure they just ripped the guts from their previous knockoff and shoved it in new casing.
i'm suprised those wiley chinese took nearly 3 weeks to get this puppy out.
Yeah kids can work much faster than that! Whip 'em every once in a while and starve 'em and you get 5 nano-fakes a minute!
Actually, we contacted them and they are NOT available now and they DO NOT even have samples - they will be available for around the same price as the 2nd Gen Nano clones w/ FM, etc - ($8 Bucks more/pc) they are only advetising and you can tell that those are not even their own pictures LOL .... I am sure http://www.pmptoday.com/2007/09/22/ipod-nano-video-clone-officially-available will let us all know when they are officially for sale online :)
BR
http://www.ChinaGrabber.com
Fast? I expected one of those when the phatty was leaked.
Not a big surprise here! I have seen in the past some chinese made nano (previous generation)... The look was similar, the packaging was similar, but the device itself was a different story. A lot of extra stuff that were not available on the real iPod but the user interface and how to use that beast was just really a good laugh !
Steve
http://inewsonly.com
The first ZUI news aggregator for iPhone and iPod touch
As a retailer of these things...these probably also have the same 1.5 hour battery life as their previous gen models.
ya, my buddy ben went through 4 of those things before he finally gave up (he kept exchanging after the headphone jacks kept breaking) he finally got the real thing.
they're interesting, and a good price. but not built of quality, that's for sure.
wow go china
It's so weird that Apple isn't doing anything about stopping this and the other knockoff that's coming out of China. Is this part of Steve Jobs' masterplan that we don't know about?
If the state department and the FBI can't stop this shit what makes you think Apple can? Contrary to popular belief Jobs is not God.
It's not illegal in China to make "look-alikes". So as long as it isn't exactly the same, they don't call it an "iPod" and they don't use "Apple" or the Apple logo, there's nothing Apple can do about this in China.
They're not legal to sell in many other countries, due to stronger anti-knockoff legislation. This is why you usually find them on eBay, where enforcement (preventing sale) is very difficult to to the huge number of sellers.
Good to know that there is really no intellectual property in china.
This is what Apple get's for having the lowest bidder, China, build it's products. Next the batteries will start exploding.
lol, they even stole the picture used in their site straight from apple.com:
http://www.yjl.net.cn/en/articleshow.asp?articleid=151
yeah, and they spelled building "buidling" at the bottom of the page
hot damn! more features adn better colours! Seriously apple... you F*cked up the colours on this generation of nano's ... I was kind of hoping for an ipod mini return too... in place of the "classic"
The only surprise is that this didn't beat the real one to the shops after the leaked photos came out.
sinserely Mike
lol... check out their iphone...
http://www.yjl.net.cn/en/articleshow.asp?articleid=146
What is A-B repeat anyway?
I believe it works like this:
Song is playing. At 1:05 into the song, you hit a button, and that saves it at A. Then at 1:35 you hit another button, and it saves it as B)
After the second time pressing a button, it makes a loop. From 1:05 to 1:35, once it hits 1:35 it starts at 1:05 again.
I think its mainly only useful for learning parts of the song on instruments (guitars, drums, keyboards, etc) or making annoying things, like 1 second loops would get terribly annoying.
It's also for language learning - popular function for those flash based mp3 players in Asia. You can use it when you want the word "apple" to loop over and over while you listen to DaVinci Code.
Funny, the only ones here that are pissed are the Apple fanboys. Who the fuck cares if I or anybody else buys a ripoff that is likely to be more superior. What your mad at the the fact that half the U.S. tomorrow will be sporting these things at half the cost and your precious expensive Apple shit won't be so novel and trendy anymore. Get over it suckers.
People buy Apple products not because they are cheap or have all the bells and whistles. People buy them because they are quality made, logically thought out in design and interface, good looking and well supported. You can walk into an Apple store with a broken iPod in your first year and get a new one.
That being said I don't have anything against people buying these ripoffs. But you do get what you pay for. Personally I'd rather throw down the money for the real thing then waste my time dealing with some faulty device that has a completely screwy interface.
The bright side is, so long as these Chinese factories continue to just be copy cats and not innovators, we in the US will still have something to contribute to the world economy.
One day you may grow up and figure this out. I have my doubts, but miracles do happen.
It’s called intellectual property. That means that if I have an idea and I bust my butt to develop that idea into a product, I get certain rights associated with that idea. Actually, I don’t even have to make it into a product to get rights, but for the sake of your comment, let’s say I do make it into a product.
It took me a LOT of time and a LOT of effort and a LOT of money to turn my idea into a product. If someone else then copies my product, slaps their label on it, and undercuts my price, I’m out of business. They have basically stolen my time, my effort, and my money in developing the product.
Now, judging from your comment, you’re likely to say, “ZOMG, so what? Better for ME, ME, ME, the consumer!!!!!!”. And you couldn’t be more wrong, wrong, wrong. Because the NEXT time I have an idea, I’m just not going to bother. Why should I? If people like you are just going to steal it, I’ll save myself the headaches and loss on income and just spend my time traveling around the world instead.
The result is that all the people with the best ideas will tell you to go take a hike. All you will be left with is your ripoff friends who rarely, if ever, come up with a worthwhile and unique idea all on their own.
.... except they are junk, like 90% of what comes out of chinas ports
FMcamaroZ28. The stuff from China is completely different from that quality, precision engineered piece of junk that you call a car :)
I guess you don't own a computer, game console, cell phone, or anything from the last five years of recent technology. If you knew how to read, you'd notice many were made in China and other countries you've never heard of.
Seeing as how you can't spell and properly punctuate, it's fair to say this is all way above your head.
@FMcamaroZ28: Generalisations are always wrong. Think about it.
@ James Wood: Take a closer look at all the gadgets you mentioned and you'll find that most are ASSEMBLED in China, not manufactured. The parts (quite often only the technical bits iside, but sometimes such as in the case of the PSP all bits) are manufactured outside of China and sent there to be put together.
As such, China is not as great a producer of technology as often implied, but often only simply inserts 'Tab A into Slot B'.
I'm sick of the RACISTS who work at Engadget.
How is it that when there is a problem product like this one, they need to generalize and lump it in as something from China/India/Korea?
It's not like when some crappy product comes from another country, say, England, that they say "Thanks, England" or "More garbage from the English" Totally biased crap.
Burn in hell, guys.
Once a product with dangerous levels of lead, containing less original innovation than it does quality, and having little to no customer service to back it up comes from the UK, then you'll hear Engadget say it. Or when Chinese manufacturers stop making a quick buck off idiot consumers and start making truly competitive products with their own ideas, then attitudes will change. Look at the Japanese - they managed to do it, when will China?
It's not biased if it's true. The point is that China's laws allow this. It's not that there are unscrupulous bastards in China who make blatant knockoffs - we have a more than adequate supply of those here in the States, believe me - but that they are allowed to do it and keep doing it.
Actually, the "Chinese/Taiwanese Piracy crisis" costs the legit Korean/Japanese/American companies such as Samsung, Sony, LG and Apple more than $650 billion every year.
BTW, @James Wood, hey you dumb-dimwit, don't lump the Koreans in with the Chinese here. As everyone knows, the Koreans have always lead the world when it comes to digital convergence, mobile and robotics.
Sources:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aSm8mwwFMr8k&refer=home
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Korea-Convergence-Multiplayer-E-Government/dp/095560690X
"Innovative features include: ..." I'm not condoning the blatant ripping off that they're pulling here, but I don't understand why Engadget is sarcastically listing the features to prove the device is inferior. Which of those "innovative features" does the iPod actually have?
I hear that the scroll wheel leaks lead paint all over you when you use it. Sheesh!
There might be lots of reasons as to why Steve Jobs is not going after these guys, like:
a) Chinese Laws may not be favorable.
b) He doesn't know where Mr. YJL lives or works, seriously.
c) Legal costs.
d) Sad to say, Steve Jobs needs China as much as China needs Apple. He need to keep his manu. units in China to keep the costs down. I mean he can't shift his base from China to Pakistan / Bangaladesh (Political Stability), India (Cheep for Services but still costly for manu. Not to say no Infra.), Cambodia / Thailand / VietNam (Cost and /or Political Reasons)
What I don't get here is, has Mr. Jobs ever realised that Mr. Yu from YJL might have 4th cousin twice removed call Mr. Chen who works for Apple's Unit in Shanghai and passing on, you know, "one more thing" info during their family reunion? Even though the new nanos were official released 3 weeks back, they were not shipped till 2 weeks ago. And I dont think they were available so soon in SE Asian / Chinese markets.
So to reverse engineer these beauties and to create their clones, either you need internal docs / design before hand or you need Ben Affleck working for you...
BTW Mr. Chen might be also working for 9to5.com :)
C'mon, the only reason nobody can stop China from copying is cuz ninja's will cut they're freak'n head off!
@John... Ninjas are Japs no Chinese... :)
"you'll lick 'em next time"
lick'en? they're probably filled with lead :-P
Foxconn is manufacturing these in China, along with the iPhone. Some components are made in other countries, but Foxconn is aiming to manufacture everything internally. Usually Chinese manufacturers produce for the main company during the day and make knock offs at night. Don't slam products from China. Your iPod, TV, laptop and cell phone are probably made there. Cars are coming next year.
Yes and we all know how 'safe' those cars have been so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F06LjugtIUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Swzbt76wBM
Car's for your worst enemy.
I would rather have this one than a real ipod. It has more features...
I don’t see the big deal here, this is how the world has operated since time began, one civilizations piggy backs on another, for the last 600 years the west have piggy backed on other civilizations from the east or south, taking what it needed from, Muslim Spain, Indu number system, plastic surgery techniques form Indian medical text, hydroponics from the Aztec and Incas, religions from the east, shit even cubism from African, now china is doing the same thing, man get over it sooner or later we all will be speaking Chinese. lol
The east is in the house
http://www.docshop.com/2007/04/13/history-surgery/
http://www.metmuseum.org/TOAH/HD/cube/hd_cube.htm
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/HS184
Guys, we found this product first. One of our writers spent three hours every day for two weeks looking for an Ipod Nano video clone. Thegadgetsite just slapped a watermark from an already watermarked product photo, and we found that photo. It wasn't even on alibaba. Just FYI. A big boo to the gadgetsite. Our link below. Hope Paul does the right thing. If he doesn't, no big deal, engadget has been really good to us. Probably not Paul's fault too. I mean, that watermark from thegadgetsite really does look juicy.
http://www.pmptoday.com/2007/09/22/ipod-nano-video-clone-officially-available/
@BrianB --- that is what i thought... you all sure did find this first... EnGadget Was late as was Da Gadget Store... lol.. www.PMPToday.com rules...
Thomas
www.ChinaGrabber.com
If they found it on their own but only later than us, Endgaget won't hear a squeak from me, but they'd never had without us. We had to go through pages of products to find it. You think we could just search "iPhone clone" and found the thing? It took days of backbreaking surfing. That's why I'm gritting my teeth. grrr.
Carebear of the year award nomination received.
I don't know who you are, but you shouldn't be questioning others' integrity like that.
From the insults and threats you've left on our site, I've actually found one interesting detail: you primary goal seems to get "links" from Engadget. That may explain the low quality website/writing that I witnessed just minutes ago.
Please consider a public apology to us. If you're too ashamed, one via email will suffice.
I'm talking about ethics. This particular post was made from two weeks of dedicatedly searching wholesalers sites. I suppose your primary goal in watermarking a product photo that already has a watermark is not to get links?
I never threatened you, just told you a universal fact believed by all Buddhists: every one, yes even you, get their just deserts.
Sorry, the grammar showing off frustration.
These things are perfect for stingy dads, (like myself) who get hassled continuously to buy their kids iPods.
These look almost the same and are so much cheaper.
And when you buy one for your kid, she will hate you for a solid month afterwards.
Yeah. Looks the same, does the same. But sounds crap. And aint cool to show off to your peers.
Making counterfeits really isn't about advancement though, it's just copying. Copying by itself is not innovation and it really unimaginative. The important part of it is extending knowledge, not tacking on tired features like crappy analog radio.
Sounds to me like someone just jammed a Creative Zen V+ into that shell.
I mean that sincerely....LOL
Always great to see how much time some people have on there hands.
their hands.
Its a good thing China's only an 8 hour flight from Melbourne
Uhhh... these things look crappy.
Cant they make fakes that at least look a bit like the originals?
These stupid things will never beat the ease of use and practicality of apple's music system.
Keepin' it real "generous", new and old, all those Industrial pollution, thanks America !!!
call me stupid but do these fake 2nd generation ipods a. work b.use itunes c.any cope
Nano knock-offs are now ebay-able, I ordered one right before I read these comments, so wish me luck, it will probably leak lead paint all over my hands and then explode five seconds later. :-)
I just returned from Beijing on vacation with my wife and son. We, of course, went shopping for "good deals" on some name brand products. I purchased a brand new in the box Ipod Nano 3rd gen. that the shop owner showed me the video on and and let me listen to the music. I took it home, put it on my computer, and......that is all I could do with it. It only has enough memory to play that small portion of a video and one song! They saw me coming a mile away man. Oh well, sometimes that happens when you go lookin for the cheap way out. Guess I'll just sell it on ebay under a fake name!!!! Just kidding......anyone want an almost new Ipod?