http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/ Engadget Comments for Keepin' it real fake, part LXXXI: New iPod nano clones unveiled, thanks China http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Someone make a better ipod touch please.. Shouldn't be too difficult.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 24th 2007 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/in this case, I really dont think they are hurting apple's bottom line. pursuing them for an award would almost certainly cost more than it would bring in. ]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
meizu is coming out with an m7. a ipod touch rip-off.

I cant wait :D]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
People like you, criticizing misspellings and off topic, are really sad! Are you a teacher? Have you never mistyped a word?]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/and car makers release sleek, innovative new devices or vehicles
domestically in Japan and Korea. 2) Chinese rip-off companies buy
one, and return to China where the whole thing is copied.3) The
Chinese companies sell the fake version domestically in China. 4)
when the original is finally sold in China, Chinese consumers think
the original is a counterfeit of a Chinese original, since the
Chinese phone was sold first, and are OUTRAGED at the copyright
violation. Counterfeiters cost legit companies about $600 billion per
year and growing fast, and the overwhelming majority of it happens in
China.]]>Sep 24th 2007 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/the global economy), check the following links
out:http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701150004.htmlhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/11/24/keepin-it-real-fake-part-xxxvii-china-car-makers-strike-again/http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611240009.htmlhttp://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701160009.htmlI
have TONS more of these!

]]>Sep 24th 2007 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBMc9Z5od8Highlights
(for those who can't speak Japanese):
- A copy of a car tail light: the original says KOREA on it, while the Chinese copy says KOBEA. The other major difference between them is that the Chinese-made light is not properly sealed and can fill up with rain water.
- Korean consumers tell reporters that it is very difficult for them to tell if brand bags being sold in shops are the real thing. - A Chinese company is selling copies of a Korean beer brand. Six months after a South
Korean company started selling a new motorbike, a Chinese company suddenly began selling an copy of the vehicle. While the outside appearance is similar, the Chinese-made bike's engine apparently breaks down within its first year of use.
- A Korean employee of a major golf goods brand states that he is concerned that Chinese/Taiwanese copies are having a negative influence on the image of his brand.

Sources:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701150004.html
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/24/keepin-it-real-fake-part-xxxvii-china-car-makers-strike-again/
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611240009.html
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200701/200701160009.html]]>Sep 24th 2007 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/I'm sure they just ripped the guts from their previous knockoff and shoved it in new casing.
i'm suprised those wiley chinese took nearly 3 weeks to get this puppy out.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.pmptoday.com/2007/09/22/ipod-nano-video-clone-officially-available will let us all know when they are officially for sale online :)

BR

http://www.ChinaGrabber.com]]>Sep 24th 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 24th 2007 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
Steve
http://inewsonly.com
The first ZUI news aggregator for iPhone and iPod touch]]>Sep 23rd 2007 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
they're interesting, and a good price. but not built of quality, that's for sure.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
They're not legal to sell in many other countries, due to stronger anti-knockoff legislation. This is why you usually find them on eBay, where enforcement (preventing sale) is very difficult to to the huge number of sellers.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 24th 2007 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.yjl.net.cn/en/articleshow.asp?articleid=151
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http://www.yjl.net.cn/en/articleshow.asp?articleid=146]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
Song is playing. At 1:05 into the song, you hit a button, and that saves it at A. Then at 1:35 you hit another button, and it saves it as B)

After the second time pressing a button, it makes a loop. From 1:05 to 1:35, once it hits 1:35 it starts at 1:05 again.

I think its mainly only useful for learning parts of the song on instruments (guitars, drums, keyboards, etc) or making annoying things, like 1 second loops would get terribly annoying.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 24th 2007 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
That being said I don't have anything against people buying these ripoffs. But you do get what you pay for. Personally I'd rather throw down the money for the real thing then waste my time dealing with some faulty device that has a completely screwy interface.

The bright side is, so long as these Chinese factories continue to just be copy cats and not innovators, we in the US will still have something to contribute to the world economy.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
It’s called intellectual property. That means that if I have an idea and I bust my butt to develop that idea into a product, I get certain rights associated with that idea. Actually, I don’t even have to make it into a product to get rights, but for the sake of your comment, let’s say I do make it into a product.

It took me a LOT of time and a LOT of effort and a LOT of money to turn my idea into a product. If someone else then copies my product, slaps their label on it, and undercuts my price, I’m out of business. They have basically stolen my time, my effort, and my money in developing the product.

Now, judging from your comment, you’re likely to say, “ZOMG, so what? Better for ME, ME, ME, the consumer!!!!!!”. And you couldn’t be more wrong, wrong, wrong. Because the NEXT time I have an idea, I’m just not going to bother. Why should I? If people like you are just going to steal it, I’ll save myself the headaches and loss on income and just spend my time traveling around the world instead.

The result is that all the people with the best ideas will tell you to go take a hike. All you will be left with is your ripoff friends who rarely, if ever, come up with a worthwhile and unique idea all on their own.
]]>Sep 24th 2007 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
I guess you don't own a computer, game console, cell phone, or anything from the last five years of recent technology. If you knew how to read, you'd notice many were made in China and other countries you've never heard of.

Seeing as how you can't spell and properly punctuate, it's fair to say this is all way above your head.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
@ James Wood: Take a closer look at all the gadgets you mentioned and you'll find that most are ASSEMBLED in China, not manufactured. The parts (quite often only the technical bits iside, but sometimes such as in the case of the PSP all bits) are manufactured outside of China and sent there to be put together.
As such, China is not as great a producer of technology as often implied, but often only simply inserts 'Tab A into Slot B'.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
How is it that when there is a problem product like this one, they need to generalize and lump it in as something from China/India/Korea?

It's not like when some crappy product comes from another country, say, England, that they say "Thanks, England" or "More garbage from the English" Totally biased crap.

Burn in hell, guys.]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/
BTW, @James Wood, hey you dumb-dimwit, don't lump the Koreans in with the Chinese here. As everyone knows, the Koreans have always lead the world when it comes to digital convergence, mobile and robotics.

Sources:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aSm8mwwFMr8k&refer=home
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Korea-Convergence-Multiplayer-E-Government/dp/095560690X]]>Sep 24th 2007 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/a) Chinese Laws may not be favorable.
b) He doesn't know where Mr. YJL lives or works, seriously.
c) Legal costs.
d) Sad to say, Steve Jobs needs China as much as China needs Apple. He need to keep his manu. units in China to keep the costs down. I mean he can't shift his base from China to Pakistan / Bangaladesh (Political Stability), India (Cheep for Services but still costly for manu. Not to say no Infra.), Cambodia / Thailand / VietNam (Cost and /or Political Reasons)

What I don't get here is, has Mr. Jobs ever realised that Mr. Yu from YJL might have 4th cousin twice removed call Mr. Chen who works for Apple's Unit in Shanghai and passing on, you know, "one more thing" info during their family reunion? Even though the new nanos were official released 3 weeks back, they were not shipped till 2 weeks ago. And I dont think they were available so soon in SE Asian / Chinese markets.

So to reverse engineer these beauties and to create their clones, either you need internal docs / design before hand or you need Ben Affleck working for you...

BTW Mr. Chen might be also working for 9to5.com :)]]>Sep 23rd 2007 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 23rd 2007 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/23/keepin-it-real-fake-part-lxxxi-new-ipod-nano-clones-unveiled/Sep 24th 2007 3:48AM