http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/ Engadget Comments for 65nm Xbox 360s starting to trickle out? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/{
console.write('woot');
}
else
{
console.write(':(');
break;
}

if (blender == blending 360)
{
Int32 devidebyzero = 1 / 0;
//Oh shi-----
}
else
{
console.write('not so woot');
}]]>Sep 29th 2007 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
Haxors!]]>Sep 29th 2007 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 30th 2007 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
And no, this is not all Halo 3 consoles. I would suggest you get a lot 0734 or higher to get 65nm. ]]>Sep 28th 2007 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
Wouldn't be nice if they just got it right the first time]]>Sep 28th 2007 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
I like this approach, sure beats having people return units because it doesn't have the right processor.

Not everyone will do this, I am sure different stores will have different policies.

- Roger

- Roger.]]>Sep 28th 2007 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
- Roger]]>Sep 28th 2007 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/]]>Sep 28th 2007 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/ [...] hence less overheating issues.

And hence less problems with cheap production lines located _______ (fill in your favorite outsourcing destination).

Often companies start producing units at "home" - only then do outsourcing when production cycle is completely "debugged" and verified to be reliable in other environments. M$ jumped to production outsourcing right away. And the quality problems were to expect.

I still recall that it tool Apple instead of planned 6 months whole 18 month before brining their Chinese plants up to level of quality Apple have demanded. And alas! there were more problems with Cupertino's' new Mac OS X than with Chinese made iBooks/PowerBooks.]]>Sep 29th 2007 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
-Javbw]]>Sep 29th 2007 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
1/ GPU tempreture, and indequate heatsink.
2/ Lack of airflow inside the case.

A shrunk CPU is not going to fix these 2 problems. We have no evidence todate, that 65nm are any more reliable than 90nm units.

Microsoft are not going 65nm CPU for reliability, they are doing it to reduce manufacturing costs.]]>Sep 29th 2007 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
Can you view the Xbox lot # just by looking at the box?]]>Sep 28th 2007 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
Also, not shrinking the actual heat spreader allows for greater heat dissipation, which means an even great efficiency. ]]>Sep 28th 2007 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/
All process shrinks (such as the much discussed 90nm to 65nm) are accompanied by an appropriate % die shrink unless you add more cache or CPU functionality. As this is a console, neither apply. I just don't see the 25% shrink I would expect to see. Hence they have reorganized the die to make it more efficient not changed the process.]]>Sep 28th 2007 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 28th 2007 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/Sep 29th 2007 8:54AM