http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft's 4GB / 8GB flash-based Zunes revealed by FCC http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Nearly all electronics, including iPods, are Made in China.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROHS]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Too Small!]]>Oct 2nd 2007 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
If MS really wants to make inroads they need to do something (besides FM) that Apple *isn't* doing.

8 & 16 would be more appealing. Or charge $75 & $100.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/

Seriously, what other frequency are they going to use?]]>Oct 2nd 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
FM - big whoop.

Who's really listening to the radio on their players? I have it on my phone & it's never been in use. Sorry Carl Kasell.

I'd rather see wifi syncing & file "borrowing" (done right).]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
Obviously you don't go to the gym or you'd know that they use FM to transmit the audio from the TV's by the cardio equipment.

THAT'S what he meant.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
However, the arguement is sound. I forgot about the other FM uses like that (though I wouldn't want to listen to Fox News, which is all I ever see on TV when I stay in Santa Cruz, where they don't have a gym, but give you a Golds pass).]]>Oct 2nd 2007 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
But god why does it have to be so god damn ugly? Those controls are laid out with zero elegance. Just look at it. I could make a better layout in 30 mins, this is just horrible.

It'll be pissing me off every time I look at it.

I'm still keeping my hopes high for Zone 3...]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
HA HA! His stock value has been going down regardless!

The Zune IS going to fail. It's got Microsoft's clumsy degign all over it. Jesus, that can't even layout the back of it with any originality.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=MSFT
Just watch the trend from at least five years back. Then compare it to today and take into account the new zune launch.
Way to be an ignorant apple fanboy...]]>Oct 2nd 2007 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/The problem though is that, although all Zunes have been good products, they haven't really offered anything AMAZING to draw the masses away from the iPods. Bluetooth/Wifi wireless sync, built-in FM transmitter, built-in Nike+ish pedometer, ...

Come on MS. Force Apple to innovate.

]]>Oct 2nd 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
I want to see them succeed, but if at Microsoft honestly believe this is a solid mp3 player, they won't.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
You're good.

"Force Apple to innovate".

What's that 8mm thick iPod 3.5" widescreen display doing on the shelves then?]]>Oct 2nd 2007 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 3rd 2007 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
Funniest. Line. Ever.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
Where are all the 3rd party accessories? Granted it took a long time for the iPod to get to where it is now, but I would have thought there would be more available for the Zune by now.

Also, if it's a video player, why can't I download videos from the Zune Marketplace?? They need to upgrade and overhaul that thing before these come out!

With that said, I'll probably pick up a flash Zune to use when I work out, but I'll be holding out on the larger capacity HDD model until I max mine out, or they release video downloads.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
note: i didnt clame this was a good design, just good profile. too bad ipod gave up the form to microsoft.]]>Oct 2nd 2007 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/...i am a fan of good product."

HA HA HA! Can you say Oxymoron? I think you can!

I bet you do ALL your 'good product' shopping at Wal Mart, right?

HA HA HA!

ass!]]>Oct 2nd 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
(I just realized that may be what i can use my old zune for when i upgrade, 'cause if i have a new zune, I can care less about my old zune.)]]>Oct 2nd 2007 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/
Riiight. After owning 4 rock-solid iPods and briefly playing with a dusty Zune at Toys R Us (fitting) and its cheap-feeling fake scroll wheel, I have to completely disagree with you. And perhaps you haven't heard of a brand new iPod with a touch screen and other features the Zune can't even dream about?

"Can't wait 'till the 160 or 80 GB zune"

At which point Apple will probably have a 1TB iPod.

Seriously, how much does Microsoft pay people to gush over this "Me too! (but made by Toshiba)" product? Microsoft needs to stick to what it's good at. Which is, uh, um, hmm...keyboards and mice?]]>Oct 2nd 2007 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/02/microsofts-4gb-8gb-flash-based-zunes-revealed-by-fcc/Oct 2nd 2007 2:46PM