http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/10/03/samsung-juke-lg-venus-blackberry-pearl-8130-lg-voyager-launch-dates/
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It seems like there are going to be pre-orders for them too.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/*rushes to store for pants with long pockets*]]>Oct 3rd 2007 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Is this came from China, you'd be making fun of it in the title already.

I really hate this uncreativity. And look how poorly it's done.

Pfff ...]]>Oct 3rd 2007 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/anyway... so a full touch screen makes it an iphone ripoff? So I guess that makes tablet PCs iphone ripoffs too?

hrm... uncreativity? you mean an autofocus camera, changeable battery, speakers (stereo.. that are actually GOOD speakers), being able to expand the memory (8 gigs per card max? LOL not being stuck with 8gigs FIXED memory is awesome)... c'mon, please try to hide your shiny, white, apple-fan-boyism.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Which came out before the Iphone was even announced.

Plus touchscreen phones exists before Apple, even those by LG.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
More hardware doesn't make a device better.
A you really that easy sold?

And the interface on the touch screen just looks like a stupid rip off of the iPhone interface. Look at the bottom buttons.

I know that touch screens existed before Apple, ok?
But this is just ridicolous.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
About the only thing that resembles the iPhone about this phones the use of icons (which TONS of phones use) and the dark gradient behind the bottom bar.

I own an iPhone and a Mac, but these guys are just rabid fanboys... Come on, people!]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
But I'm somehow into the design profession ... and it really makes me crazy to see those uninspired, same stuff again, in a style copied from another success story.

Same old cr** ... new case ... kings new clothes.

Here, I did a mock up ... just because this makes me mad:

http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ripoffmb0.jpg
]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Apple didn't invent the icons on a screen interface.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 5:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Nothing else, nothing special.

Is there anything special about it?

And no hardware specs prayers, please ... because a gaziliion other phones offer the same.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/I agree. I think it's boring that Apple can't come up with anything original. Sony makes a nice keyboard, Oooh, look a nice keyboard says apple, let's copy it! And then they ripoff the Neonode touchscreen phone, even though it took them a few year to steal the idea. And then finally the steal the whole iPhone design from the LG Prada. Zzzzz, come on Apple... ]]>Oct 3rd 2007 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
you're being really ridiculous now.

Why don't you drop the fanboy bomb on me, again?
Come on ... come on ... do it ... it's so fun ...

Look ... even the Navigator Icon on the LG looks like the Safari Icon ... crossed with the dashboard icon ...

Icons have the same colors.

The My Pictures icon is almost exactly the same as on the iPhone.

It's not only a layout rip-off ... they also did the most stupid thing and stole icons ...

Instead of defending uninspired Devices from the assembly-line of uncreativity, you should boycott those pices of plastic, that have nothing but randomness about them ...

I for one can't stand the news about poorly designed stuff anymore, which get featured just because you call 'em all gadgets.

It's just another phone that's only so-so. I don't understand why you have to fight for it so much?

I'm truly no fanboy ... but some guys here seem to be acting out of stupid anti-Apple-ism ... just comparing it to the iPhone made you jump out ... hm?

Man ... ]]>Oct 3rd 2007 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Would you agree that the iPhone design is a rippoff of the LG Prada? I bet you won't. ]]>Oct 3rd 2007 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
AND
ALL Sony Ericsson phones..
Windows 95-Vista..
Palm OS..

What else?]]>Oct 3rd 2007 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
LG Prada rip-off ... oh, man ... is there really nothing else you could come up with.

Why do I sound like an Apple fanboy?
Because I think this lame phone is nothing special, has no real concept and is sold through tech specs only?

Maybe you sound like a: everything but Apple fanboy - or Apple hater.

But maybe you're just a nerd, with no idea of design and in the Too fast, too furios target group.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
the thing that everyone is saying is that because you only compare/criticize a new device to Apple iPhone - not to Windows Vista/XP/98/95, not to the PALM OS, not to any other device that have implemented icons as menu items.

Granted, there are similarities, but, consider something for me:
- How would you depict a navigational applet?
- how would you depict a browser/internet surfing applet?
- .... depict an email applet?

I could go on and on...and I would bet that you have the same idea as 100 other people I would also ask. Does that mean you copied from all those other 100 or that they copied from you?? NO...it's called standardization or uniform depictions. Humans think alike, so, why not associate items similar without having to be called "uncreative" or even boring, etc...

And, guess what... your toaster looks like every other toaster on the market. Did they copy? They do the same thing!!! Who cares?? If it sells, more power to them! ]]>Oct 3rd 2007 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
But humans think alike? When exactly did any of the cell phone companies excell in understanding how humans work: mostly all interface are stone age and terrible to use.

And what I also don't get: Why are you all fighting so hard over this?
It is clear that they try to jump on the iPhone band wagon. Period.
Get over it.

Just another phone with nothing special about it.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Cry me a river. Stop with the "But I'm somehow into the design profession" bullshit. If you are in the profession, you should know better that most designers copy one another and change things here and there.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Bullshit.
Everything is there ... even the row at the bottom with FOUR function.

You don't see it because you don't wanna.

Do I have to draw you a map?
]]>Oct 3rd 2007 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 5th 2007 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
That UI where the row of buttons down below has been done before! Maybe not four icons (Treo 680p had five, Clie TH55 had 12), but it has been done. So quit yapping like the ignorant idiot fanboy you are.

http://www.palminfocenter.com/ss.asp?f=treo-680-ub-3-L.jpg]]>Oct 4th 2007 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 4th 2007 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 6th 2007 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/]]>Oct 6th 2007 5:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Well, he must be an idiot, too, right?

http://daringfireball.net/
]]>Nov 22nd 2007 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Personally, it looks far to clunky for me and I'm scared off by Verizon's UI.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
V, enV, Voyager....]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
You just have to say NO ... no matther what?
Why? Because it's about Apple?]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
You just have to say NO ... no matther what?
Why? Because it's about Apple?]]>Oct 3rd 2007 4:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Mobile TV - Check
Being able to create your own ringtones with a program like BitPim - Check
Putting photos back and forward easily - Check
Games that do not require jailbreaking and warranty-voiding - Check
SMS - Check
Send Photos to anybody(number, email address, etc.) - Check

Idk, iphone clone or not, this seems like a pretty sweet phone!]]>Oct 3rd 2007 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 4th 2007 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/By his post, I have to assume he's never used Verizon or known anyone who has. Verizon disables EVERYTHING. My gf's razr can't even download pictures to the a computer. My 4 year old V300 can do that with a $3 cable I bought on ebay.]]>Oct 4th 2007 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Go play with it before you knock it completely. Hell I will...]]>Oct 3rd 2007 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
How many different ways are there to make a calendar icon? They -all- look almost exactly the same, on every phone, ever. Same thing with "my pictures" and so on. The rampant Apple fanboy-ism kills me here. ]]>Oct 3rd 2007 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/
Apple fans will always claim their product is the best and rarely have any complaints. Apple haters will always find the faults and brag about how something else is much better.

My opinion, Apple has usually made sleek, attractive products, but I despise some of their "design" decisions, such as no user changeable/upgradeable batteries. They seem to be more concerned about the "cool" factor and less about the end users actual product useability. My last two phones were both LG's and they work wonderfully, so hopefully, LG did as well with the Voyager.

I'll wait for a side by side review of Iphone vs Voyager after the Voyager has been on the market at least 6 months before I make any decisions.]]>Oct 3rd 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/03/verizons-lg-voyager-heads-up-newly-official-fall-lineup/Oct 3rd 2007 9:38AM