http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/ Engadget Comments for Apple to offer limited 3rd party iPhone app support? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
So...Apple wants to keep the QA in house to ensure that they get the profit and they can ensure the programs work, only they don't QA the product...makes sense...profit, profit, profit, that's the AppleSoft way.]]>Oct 8th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Then there are the service providers. Apple wants to make sure they keep their end of the bargain and keep it closed source to the specific carrier

Then, there are the ringtones. Keep an open platform, and it will be harder to maintain iTunes-only purchased ringtones.

While security is partly an issue, I think it's mainly for one reason - greed, or another way to put it, it's business.]]>Oct 8th 2007 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Right on. Honestly, I got spoiled using the Mac, and now, I ruin my PC experience regularly because I use it like a Mac until it runs out of memory, and can't open windows or alert boxes (whereas the Mac just always works, if more slowly).

So, some people want a crashy app-rich f-ed up iPhone experience, over a more stable measured one. Sorry, I pick stability. I'd like a handful apps like Sketches, ToDoList, Money, iBlackJack, Mines, weDict, VNotes, Lights Out and vt-100 maybe Summerboard to make it over, but so far there's also been a lot of crap out there too. Summerboard could use some more QA behind it as well, so it doesn't crash leaving me stranded on a blank homescreen. I think with offline support & homescreen shortcuts, the web apps are a solid alternative as well. BeeJive is still the BEST IM client (for supportted platforms and interface) with the one exception of notification.]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Exploiting vulnerabilities is definitely not the way forward, as this is a dangerous two-edged sword no device manufacturer can safely ignore.
On the other hand, the massive excitement and hype generated by Apple with this rush release deserves to be serviced a little faster with apps that fulfil the most commonly requested wish-list items (no need to list them here, just surf the vast iPhone Web).
Apple, you hit the ground running with this baby, and there's no slowing down now, indeed we need you to hit racing 3rd dear, prontamundo...]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/"indeed we need you to hit racing 3rd GEAR, prontamundo...]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
The iPhone is running OSX ffs, it's got a new framework designed for the capabilities of the device, but otherwise it's OSX. ]]>Oct 8th 2007 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
or because they don't need open-source, because they content with what's inside the box?

Regardless, 99% of consumers do not read or comment on Engadget, and are not going to hear what you're trying to say, no matter how good advice it may be.

...Sorry, just summing up my recent thoughts into one comment.]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Yeah, I'll go with that one.

- Xidius]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
- I don't have the time and energy to deal with locking down my machine tighter than Fort Knox just for it to remain usable. Windows is out of the picture on that alone.

- I don't want a platform whose performance will deteriorate rapidly unless I'm religiously observant about what apps I run (registry bloat, DLL bloat, etc). Windows is guilty of this also.

- I have zero interest in compiling my own drivers, my own kernel, nor anything else in my system. I do this all day at work and I'd rather not do it AFTER. Most Linux distros are out.

- I want something that has a slick UI, and will run almost all open source apps ('cos I like my free software). OSX runs most of the OSS apps I've come across, and has a slick UI. Linux doesn't, though Ubuntu tries, and is somewhat competent.

Does Apple practice hardware locking for Macs? Sure, but it also makes the OS more solid overall - fewer driver combinations to test for and whatnot. I used to build all my own boxes, and prided myself in doing so, but as life got in the way (job, girlfriend, and all the OTHER things besides computers we do...) I found that I wanted something that will run the apps I want, do the job I need it to do, and I don't care if it doesn't have a GeForce 10000000GTXXX, nor do I care if it doesn't have customizable LEDs and super-uber-duper-megapixel webcams attached, I want something that I'm content will do what I need to do, and do it exceedingly well.

And that's my story - a switcher from Windows to Mac for two years running, though a Linux professional by day :P This isn't to say I'm not disappointed at Apple for their attitudes towards the iPhone, but it changes nothing about the Mac as a platform. It is as open and as closed as it's always been.]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
i'm not saying neither are right nor wrong, but sometimes it seems like there're some who'd take opportunity to cry foul at any opportunity (this comes from both apple-fanbois' "M$ $UX!!!" and apple-fanbois-haters' "iPwn3d!!!").

all i'm saying is, that people who just want a phone that also plays music will most likely be on the quiet camp whilst those who NEED whatever apps for whatever use will be the more vocal ones (when it comes to this 'lock down' issue, at least).]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
"or because they don't need open-source, because they content with what's inside the box"

Then why are they trying to install 3rd party apps if they are content with whats in the box?]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
If you read back the comment, you'll slowly realize he's correct, and that you're probably operating under a misconception. Believe it or not, small amounts of people can be VERY vocal.

That said, it's probably more accurate to say 90% of iPhone customers aren't paying attention to 3rd party apps. They're NOT trying to install them, because they're content and doing their thing. It's the 9% who bought the iPhone for what it did and the 1% who bought it for what they thought it could do, that are pushing Apple for more.

I installed 3rd party apps, and right now, I've widdled back them down to Summerboard, NES, and iBlackjack (amongst various non-visible installations). I'm considering the 1.1.1 update still. I don't need a crashy phone, and the iPhone already does exactly what I bought it for. I can see both sides of it.]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 6:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/

Save your toast for your wedding day.]]>Oct 8th 2007 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Maybe if that happens a couple of times, they'll learn to leave well enough alone. If you can't talk some common sense into troublemakers, you gotta give them some old fashioned tough love.

You know the old saying. "Spare the rod, spoil the geek."]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 3:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Anyway.. I imagine there will be two kinds of apps for the iPhone going up side by side. Free java script based widgets by anyone, and pay for full blown native applications and games by selected 3d party developers.]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html]]>Oct 8th 2007 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
am i the only one who thinks its looking cluttered already...and Apple being "Clutter Free" and all.

Isn't it time for iPhone update v.2?]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
only because some hackers/hacks can be used to load/run 3rd party apps on the iphone don't make this a common feature.

take the iphone for what it is and not for what it could be.

it was (at the moment?) never menat as an open platform, so calm down and get real.

if you want third party apps (now) then go buy a nokia or htc machine, they can make you happy (not really!!).

get over it...

btw. rule #45: if you don't like it, don't buy it - easy as that]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Why? Why can't I speculate about what it could be? Is that whole line of conversation verboten?]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/]]>Oct 8th 2007 7:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
I also hear (though I can't say from where) that they deliberately put some lower end spec'd components into the first gen iPhone so with the launch of the second gen phone they can launch something substantially higher spec'd in a short space of time, so they can go "WOW! You though the first iPhone was good, now this is just spectacular in comparison! Aren't we brilliant!"

It's all spin...it's a pity so many people are blind to it and fall for it so easily.]]>Oct 8th 2007 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
But Steve Jobs says i don't want AIM ... glad Steve is there to think for me.]]>Oct 8th 2007 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 9th 2007 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
Do you have any idea what percentage of folks with blackberries or WM devices install any 3rd party apps at all?

The fact that you need a remote desktop client for your phone means that (1) you are in a percentage of a percentage of the phone market & (2) you should buy a non-apple phone. Just do it! Jobs isn't going to come to your house and pee on your bluetooth.]]>Oct 8th 2007 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 8th 2007 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/Oct 10th 2007 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-to-offer-limited-3rd-party-iphone-app-support/
BMW says use UNLEADED gas only. That doesn't mean you can't convert your vehicle to run on ethanol... yet it does mean that BMW won't honor the warranty any longer once you rip the engine apart. Tinker away - just don't expect Apple to be your mommy and fix it for you once you break it.]]>Oct 15th 2007 7:55AM