http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/"there is always someone who likes pretty things."

I bet your mom is happy your dad isn't one of them, otherwise there would never have been a little drakin to make dickhead comments.

]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
That vista "search" is something us mac users have had for a long while, its called Spotlight. Its such a good feature, that Ms made a search just like it and put it in vista. Macs also have "widgets" ( you guys got "gadgets") after osx had widgets for a long time. Macs have other good features as well, maybe vista will copy them soon and you will have a better os]]>Oct 11th 2007 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 12th 2007 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
I'm willing to bet the woman has a crapass computer. A home computer should have cool stuff like "gadgets" and a beautiful interface, and no matter what the OS, you need a good hardware configuration to support that kind of stuff. (Just thought I'd get my 2 cents in before the apple staff comes to plug OS X.)]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
You have to be kidding me. My wife's 6 year old 800Mhz iMac (bottom of the line when we bought it) runs Mac OSX 10.4 tiger PERFECTLY! Widgets and all! Without a hitch.

VISTA is seriously flawed. Admit it.]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
I am honestly asking.]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
Because it doesn't, actually. Show me anything in OS X approaching what Vista can do with DirectX 10 on a GeForce 8800 and I'll be shocked. Not saying it's impossible, but I really have my doubts.]]>Oct 11th 2007 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
Vista runs great on my machine. The only issues I've had involved replacing some applications that didn't work right in Vista, and some RAID stuff that ultimately proved to be hardware related. There are a surprising amount of new features in Vista (the enhanced performance monitor, showing hard disk bandwidth during transfers, aero) that I really enjoy. And I actually wanted to hate Vista.

If I could actually install OS X to do a Vista v. OS X comparison, I totally would, but as you all know I can't. OS X is designed to run on a very specific hardware group. Vista is designed to run on a variety of different processors, video cards, motherboards, etc. I would certainly hope that OS X performs better than Vista.

And before you say: "OS X has a great performance monitor, came before Aero, and does _______ and _____ and ______," see the following sentence: When Apple starts letting you install their operating system on whatever hardware you chose to build your machine with, video games are written for OS X, and Apple stops using the mediocre 7600 GT as their top of the line video card, I think you can make this comparison.

Stop comparing Apple's and Oranges.]]>Oct 11th 2007 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
A home computer should create a beautiful and enjoyable user experience. That's what Vista brings to the table.

If OS X is so much better, why is it the lowly Mac Mini still has to ship with 2 gigs of ram and a decked out proc? Run Vista on the same hardware, and this woman would be kissing Ballmer's..]]>Oct 11th 2007 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
don't know what everyone is so upset about...]]>Oct 12th 2007 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
I had to buy my mother a new PC a few months ago and she's taken to Vista better than she ever took to XP. My "support" calls pretty much gone away. Now my mom and I have nothing to talk about ... I never realized how much my mom rambles =/ Thanks Bill.]]>Oct 11th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
I use both a Windows and OSX machine, so all you egg-headed insects keep your "Fanboi" jeers quiet.

Also, to you with the "you need a good hardware configuration to support that kind of stuff" excuses. Ok, yeah, totally. That explains why none of the goodies in OSX (basically everything Vista is trying to pull off) work on older hardware...

Oh wait... They do... My bad.

If you want "widgets" (arguably, the only "cool" or "useful" "feature" of Vista), just get Yahoo! Widgets for XP. I instlled it on my old XP machine with 4 year old hardware and a gig of ram, and it works wonders. I have all the cool transparencies and everything, and I _know_ everything works the way I expect it to.

I am not an MS hater in full, I am a Vista hater, and thus I pity MS, and its inferior OSs. There is a difference.

XP is the best of the MS world, there is no reason to downgrade to Vista. Even MS has admitted they are going to port some of the Vista "features" to XP in the SP3 update. Take that, with the fact that MS will "allow" you to "downgrade" to XP from Vista, and that you have to pay extra (buy Ultimate I beleive) to get this "downgrade" option, and you can plainly see that MS knows they messed up.

Of course they won't admit it, they put good money into developing Vista, they would be insane to admit they failed at beating Apple, and lose on that investment. So make the consumer pay more to get the option to use an 'lesser' product.

MS fanboys, I am not saying MS sucks, they have their place, but please, your like a pack of lemmings... Wake up and look beyond the marketing hype, Vista is a failure (do not quote me sales figures or file system/kernel stats, it will just prove you allowed MS to brain wash you...), stop defending it...]]>Oct 11th 2007 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
"Puttin on the ritz!"]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
ok, if you say so

Ooper Dooper]]>Oct 11th 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/5GHz Processor
8GB RAM (2GB for Operating System unnecessary fancy 3D effects)
2GB video card


That $3,000 rig you got w while back
? It's good for our basic version

And this time, we will ask you if you are sure you want to: click the start menu, launch browser, mute volume, eject c.d., change to a different url, etc.]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
Who really needs that much RAM to surf the web?

And minimum requirements for any Microsoft OS is always low for when it came out.

"800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
Support for Super VGA graphics
CD-ROM drive"

You can CHOOSE not to use the 3D effects if you don't want to.]]>Oct 11th 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
Then please explain to my why Dashboard Widgets, Expose, and all the nice little visual effects work perfectly well even on my sisters 550Mhz G4 TiBook?

Ran well on my 1.42Ghz Mac Mini, and runs really really well on my Quad 2Ghz Mac Pro.

Why did I add the Mac Pro part? Because Windows Vista ran like a total dog on it in comparison. Yup... on a Quad Xeon 2Ghz, 2Gb Ram system. Slow!]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
BTW, Vista is blazing fast on my rig, a 1.86 ghz Core 2 duo with 2gb of ram, and a geforce 7600 GS. Do you have the proper drivers installed on that mac pro?]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
And it also runs perfect on my desktop which is a few years old but well upgraded...
P4 3.2 Ghz HT
2 Gb Ram
GeForce 7800]]>Oct 11th 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
My comp is a Dell 4550 from early 2003, upgraded the RAM from 512mb to 1gb and graphics to GeForce FX. Runs Aero, DreamScene and all other features perfectly, if a bit slowly.

Remember, back in late 2001, the same people were bitching about XP's issues when it was released.]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
"I don't have any problems - therefore no-one else must have problems."

Even worse is

"Yeah, people had the same problems on XP release, and I didn't believe them then either..."
]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
and what study did you perform that comes up with a 95% user error rate?]]>Oct 11th 2007 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
The study of "I work in the farking industry."]]>Oct 11th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Stupid thing wouldn't go past the hardware detection stage.
Guess what it wanted?

That's right. A driver for the DVD drive it was already reading the Vista setup routine from.
How STUPID is that??]]>Oct 11th 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 12th 2007 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/
Back to Vista. Ar, Vista not really that great is it, not the worst either but still clunky. Even though I use mostly MS gear I can’t help but think most of their products are designed by very very clever people with absolutely no unique talent or vision in any shape or form. I really wish Apple were compatible with all my MS only Software, I’d go Apple in a second.]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/]]>Oct 11th 2007 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Oct 11th 2007 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/analyst-mother-vents-vista-frustrations-to-ballmer/Try being a NEW computer user who has no preconceived notions about where something should be.
When I was setting up Vista, I was also finding it hard to locate items because of the changed menus/locations, but once I realized that I found the items where a NOVICE computer user (i.e.- First time computer user... your mother, grandparents, etc...) would look for them I discovered that they were actually easier to find.

As for drivers, that is not MS's fault. Example: I can't run Compiz Fusion/Beryl on my computer with a brand new $200 ATI graphics card. Why? ATI's Linux drivers suck. And I don't hear anyone complaining about how Linux needs to make drivers to support ATI graphics cards. No, all ire is directed at ATI as it should be.

But its "cool" to hate MS and say everything is their fault. I remember when XP came out... There were the exact same problems but there weren't so many people on the internet to complain loudly and proclaim the greatness of Apple (Disclaimer: I have a MacBook Pro as well as a Vista desktop and both have their pros and cons)]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:58AM