http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/This got much smaller than the last one, and really quite slim considering the keyboard!
N800: 144x75x13-18mm, 206g
N810: 128x72x14mm, 226g
+a faster processor (400 instead of 330MHz)
+still 2 SD card slots
+apparently much nicer UI
+GPS, which makes a lot of sense for that device
+better battery life.

The Bad
-still a 65k screen (was already very good on the N800 and this has better brightness, but still...)
-no media playback keys (I know, not a core competence, but still)
-no TV out (would have been very nice)
-d-pad on the sliding part (not superbad imho, but would have been better on the upper part imho)

Taken form mobile-review.com. I do think its looks hot... thought a bit too late for me my Archos is coming tomorrow =/]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
A battery life of only 4 hours. That's almost a dealbreaker for me. I would use a device like this to stay connected al through my house. But as it is right now I might just as well use my ultraportable. The nokia is smaller, yet the battery life is not much better.

Fuelcells anyone?]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/With all my tablets and touch screen pdas I now have a phone with full qwerty keyboard and my tablet is no longer a slate...
You don't know how much you need a keyboard until it is missing.
Right on NOKIA !!!]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showpost.php?p=620035&postcount=25]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/ Well, the Nokia has GPS and a camera which the Foleo did not (not that I think the camera is all that great a feature), but even more importantly, it's pocketable. It might have basically the same capabilites as the foleo, but it's genuinely pocketable. The foleo had the same size, shape, and footprint as a small laptop with like 1/3 the overall power of one.

I'll agree this whole 'companion device' thing doesn't totally float my boat, but at least the Nokia has a smaller overhead in effort for carry and use. It doesn't require an extra article to carry it in (like a bag or case), and it can be used comfortably while standing or sitting. Neither was really true of the Foleo.

Just my perspective...

]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
It's small enough to go in a pocket
It has a built in GPS (and included mapping software)
It plays Flash 9 videos (YouTube) in the browser
It's fast enough to decode MP4 video files
It has built in pre-configured VOIP capability
It has an AJAX (Google Docs and Spreadsheets) compatible browser

and the biggest difference of all...It's actually available for purchase]]>Oct 23rd 2007 4:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.maemoapps.com/ check this :)]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
1.) Does it retain the camera for video? Does it work better? Do we get a higher MP cam so we can actually use it to take pics?

b.) Was there some policy against taking a pic of the whole device / ui? I get the need to see ports, but lets see the whole package?!?!??!]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Seems Nokia is trying to go "up market" with the N810 and to justify their spending billions on mapping.
You pays yer money and yer takes yer choice of either the inexpensive N800 ($235) or the newer N810 with faster processing (slightly) and included gps for 2x the price.
If the N810 can reach concumers for a tad less than $400 it works for me.]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 18th 2007 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
The apparent crappiness of the QWERTY keyboard and the battery life are not. (I will have to decide for myself on the QWERTY thing, though).

Also, I remember that though the N800 had a camera that could face the user, Skype Video conferencing didn't work. Has that been addressed? Because that's a killer app for this if I've ever seen one.

Still, though. I've never wanted a product that I KNOW I have absolutely no use for as much as I do right now. 8^D]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 18th 2007 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.maemoapps.com/]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/]]>Oct 17th 2007 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
Yawn, another phone that looks like all the others, or was possibly reposted nine million times.

Link more cool shit that does things nobody has conceived of yet.]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
Wanna hear something funny, they are not even covering the n810 launch!

Wanna hear something funnier than that... it's because the n810 is NOT a cellphone.

To the guy asking for non iphone comparisons, there is a slight problem. The ipod touch is roughly (I know a little smaller) the size of the iphone and with the announcement that they will open the software up through an SDK, you have to realize that makes the touch a possible internet tablet as well.]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
That's no justification for boring the crap out of me.]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
It's bad enough you have all these people commenting with comparisons that the iPhone is better than the N810, when they don't even serve the same purpose.

Stop adding fuel to the fire by posing the N810 next to the iPhone!]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
He only did this to get a rise out of sensitive commenters like yourself. Engadget writers have a great sense of humor about them when it comes to people's distaste for the iPhone.

The more you urge them to stop, the more iPhone news they present. I wish you kids would realize that the precious time you spend criticizing this site for covering one of this year's top selling phones is all for nothing. ]]>Oct 17th 2007 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 18th 2007 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 18th 2007 3:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
(Oh, and (a) it's the 770, not the N770 or N700; and (b) no, the 770 won't be getting any more software updates; they've already cut us off.)]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/

Nokia is cheap. They think people won't pay the extra $40 it would cost if this were a phone. That's extremely shortsighted. They have no idea how big a hit this would be if it had phone capability (and maybe a much better CPU). Even if it costs more (which I dont think it would need to cost considering that they'll get a huge sales volume).
]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/I agree with you i could probaly pay a bit more if it had phone in it... then agen people here in engadget..howardforums and so on arent really the majority ;)
Nokia will have its S60 TS at...well some where in 2008.]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 17th 2007 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/Oct 18th 2007 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
I can't wait for the iPhone 2, those guys actually know what consumers could use. I'm betting the next iPhone will have all this stuff plus the rumored pressure sensitiveness.

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Ever since I got my N800, I don't lug my laptop around to coffee shop anymore.]]>Oct 17th 2007 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
And this way, you can have a SMALL sexy phone and all the internet with you when you want, and take only the small sexy phone with you for nights out and similar stuff. Not that bad an idea if you ask me...]]>Oct 17th 2007 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-hands-on/
When I need to compute on the move, take notes, or manage my calendar and to-do lists, I also have an old Palm, which does, easily, fit in my pocket. When I know I won't have any need of it, or will be going somewhere it could be damaged, I leave it at home and carry just my small, cheap cellphone, which does a great job of voice calling and is robust enough to survive being in my pocket all the time, often alongside a bunch of keys.

What the Palm lacks is connectivity. More often than not, at home my internet use is 30 seconds here, a minute there, and maybe I don't feel like getting up and going to the computer to do that. I often wish I could just browse from the Palm. So the N810 would be a perfect replacement for it.

Best of all: I know that third-party apps are not only supported, but encouraged. Can't say I trust Apple much in that regard, so the iPhone and iTouch are non-starters for me.]]>Oct 18th 2007 12:11PM