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you are very funny. have a merry christmas. lmao.]]>Dec 20th 2007 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
I've got an HDMI input on my 24" LG. I'd love a dual hdtv tuner setup, and an HD player to boot...oh yeah, and the option to play xbox on it, but then switch over to PC games...

sounds like a concept still, but there may be a market out there...]]>Oct 19th 2007 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
sony removed the ps2 chips. it doesn't do backwards compatible support as well. they removed features. end of story. 20gb, 80gb, big woop, that's not what was important, it's simply a sales gimmick. I can get a 500gb drive for $70 and network. so what?]]>Oct 21st 2007 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Yes. M$ is always to blame, again and again they continue to trash their consumers. It doesn't take a single rumor to prove it but history itself. Open your eyes a bit and you'll see this is not the first or last time.. lol think "we don't need HDMI". Why the need to resort to name calling? Oh that's right, you've got nothing better to reply with.. PS3 fanboy? Hardly. I got both my 360 premium and PS3 on their respective launches. I'm just tired on M$ alienating customers like myself, I'm tired of being without console for weeks at a time thanks to RLOD, I'm tired of paying for XBL when PSN is free.. The list goes on. Do youself a favor and research the ATI scaler in the 360. HD is by way of software not hardware.. ie. synthetic HD.]]>Oct 19th 2007 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
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Sony hasn't.. Removing features every 6 months? Try adding buddy. The HDD keeps gettin larger as the price keeps dropping. They didn't remove BC, they removed the hardware that used to enable it. Now similar in a sense to how the 360 upscales video the PS3 now emulates PS2 hardware for BC by way of software. As for your claims about rumble I don't recall them saying never, I'm pretty sure they said it wasn't necessary and at that time interfered with motion sensing. You have to remember, at that time they were being sued by Immersion. Even still, rumble is coming, HDD space going is up, prices continue to go down, exclusives keep on coming, the library grow almost every other week, PSN is a hit, AND things have just started for the PS3. Interesting attempt though.]]>Oct 19th 2007 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Yes, Sony has made the PS3 cheaper -- by removing features. That's HOW come it's cheaper.


@stephenbratz2
What are you going on about. I'm sorry, but is 5278k1194k supposed to mean something? How about 4 8 15 16 23 42 -- Because your numbers make as much sense.]]>Oct 19th 2007 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Wrong. The 80GB has a larger HDD and is every bit as capable as a launch 60GB yet it's 100$ cheaper. Plus it currently include Motorstorm a $60 value. So to recap: 20GB more HDD.. 1 Free bestselling game.. AND $100 less. Doesn't seem like anything less to me. Then there's the 40GB which replaces the previous entry level SKU the 20GB. It still has no card reader but now it has 20GB more.. While they took away hardware PS2 BC they added Wifi(Wifi btw is a $100 OPTION on the 360 which negates all price arguments when comparing the two consoles). Oh yeah, AND it's $100 cheaper still! So to recap, no hardware PS2 bc, 20GB more, ADDED Wifi, and $100 cheaper. Plus it will include a free BR movie Spiderman 3.

You still have your choice between entry level or premium.. The only thing they did was give you MORE and lower the price.]]>Oct 20th 2007 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Each system has its merits at the moment and I'm not partial to any one.

But Sony has lied, reneged on more promises and done more flip-flops than any other company.

You criticized x360's flip-flop on HDMI, well Sony did the exact same thing with Rumble. Phil Harrison said they didn't include rumble because it was a "last-gen" feature NOT because of the lawsuit with Immersion, which was blatant lie: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157501

Also, the limited amount of backwards compatibility that PS3 has now is only in the 80GB version. I don't even care about BC, but it's another example of a Sony flip-flop, and spin doctoring to cover it up.]]>Oct 20th 2007 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
lol, see it however twisted you will.. clearly no one can help you. I've done my part and backed up everything with factual information. You may want to read over your reply to see a true attempt at spin control.]]>Oct 20th 2007 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Can anyone say rootkit?]]>Oct 20th 2007 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
If cost difference would be marginal - then I see no reasons why not.

Though I somehow doubt that even in one year HD DVD or BluRay would catch up with price of DVD drives.

Anyway, since Xbox using plain standard DVD drive, replacing it with HD DVD (or even BluRay) drive of same form factor is no brainer. Software/firmware support - for MSFT is trivial to add.]]>Oct 19th 2007 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
The PS3 is a hell of a deal once you start to add up what you're getting for your money. ]]>Oct 19th 2007 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
So the "hell of a deal" you get from PS3 is really illusionary. PS3 simply must offer better deal - since it costs more.

Xbox costs less, has more and cheaper games. Only way Sony can compete with MSFT is by providing more options with PS3.

When it comes down to plain gaming, Xbox @ $280 beats even Wii at price/performance. PS3 with shy game library and no B/C at moment can only envy the competition between them.

As non-gaming ... Well, Sony can't boast much of gaming (compared to PS2 or Xbox) so they have to appeal to something else, e.g. BluRay HDTV playback or free on-line capabilities. It's not that they have choice right now.]]>Oct 19th 2007 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Consider that next time Sony removes something from the PS3 to make it cheaper for consumers.]]>Oct 19th 2007 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/While yes...the PS3 dont have alot of games yet. but the 360 has cheaper games??? Where are these cheaper games at??? From what i can tell, a 60 dollar 360 game is the same price as 60 dollar PS3 game. I mean i could be wrong, but im almost sure its the same price.]]>Oct 22nd 2007 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/I bought the 360 to play games.

Remember that?
When we use to buy consoles to play games?]]>Oct 19th 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
- Tony R.]]>Oct 19th 2007 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Yeah, I remember too. Those were some good times. :)]]>Oct 19th 2007 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/When we use to buy consoles to play games?"

Yeah, but Microsoft isn't in it "for the games"...]]>Oct 19th 2007 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
I'm not holding my breath, but an Xbox with dual HD Tuners (they would have to be cable card tuners) the ability to save the recorded content to the WHS, and an HD DVD drive would be awesome. By making the Xbox a Media Center device rather than just an extender, Microsoft could be the definition of the digital home.]]>Oct 19th 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/
Why not just buy DVR?]]>Oct 19th 2007 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 20th 2007 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 20th 2007 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/19/360-to-get-built-in-hd-dvd-drive-in-late-2008/Oct 19th 2007 6:40PM