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DVD player has a new interlacing that requires a certain video card minimum.]]>Oct 26th 2007 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/John @ Oct 26th 2007 4:34PM
Processors running 8 MHz came out a lot longer than 8 years ago too...
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Yes actual 8-MHZ is, but a 486 clocked to 8-MHz is NOT the same as am actual 8-MHz chip, your just making a vastly superior 32-bit chip run slower.

An actual 8-MHz chip like an 8088 only has a 16-bit architecture and an 8-bit data-width, (we are talking original IBM PC here) There is no way XP would run on one of those machines. less cache less memory slower FPU or even no FPU. and roughly 1/50th the instructions per second.

It just shows all you PC people think about is clock speed clock speed clock speed, i suppose you like your cars as pegout 206s with v8 engines, a pint sized fuel tank and 2 low gears. youl be the nosiest and slowest car on the block.]]>Oct 28th 2007 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
Ha! Try loading Vista on your 8 year old PC!

Back to your regularly scheduled gadget blog...]]>Oct 26th 2007 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
I've tried it on a similarly spec'd machine (from the x86 family, obviously, but same era as the G4), and yes, Vista does work. No, it doesn't have random problems like the DVD player not working or the powerpoint equivalent not functioning because it REQUIRES OpenGL hardware-accelerated drivers. In that regard, Vista does have it beat. Obviously Vista won't support aero.

However, I'm very impressed with Leopard's install time and how functional it seems to be from your report. How is general web-browsing in safari, I wonder?]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
http://gallery.pandaria.co.uk/main.php/d/1837-1/90vista_4.jpg]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
I use OS X, Vista and XP on a regular basis. My OS of choice is in fact OS X but it would indeed be interesting to do a side by side comparison of Leopard and Vista performance (boot time, etc) at minimum specifications.]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/that was beta testing, then Microsort made it an actual OS and ruined it.
Apple is making build 9A581 into OSX 10.5.0 TO MAKE IT BETTER!!!!!]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/crack/index.html]]>Oct 26th 2007 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 27th 2007 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
You probably want to engage the services of a readily available tech support company, maybe one of the ones that help older people. You certainly can't blame your obvious failings on the OS.]]>Nov 1st 2007 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
In theory, you could hack around that (as the hackintosh folks did in making SSE3 optional on OSx86, and basing it on SSE2), but the amount of work required makes it unlikely, and the speed cost to do that makes it impossible. You COULD make it work, if you were willing to hack it sufficiently, but it'd take weeks and would result in a performance probably twice as slow as the clockspeed would indicate.]]>Oct 26th 2007 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
- Xidius]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
What specific 1Gig PC 2700 333Mhz RAM chip did you end up buying to bump the iBook memory max? I'm looking to buy
the: Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR SO-DIMM DDR 333 (PC 2700) Notebook Memory - Retail]]>Oct 26th 2007 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 27th 2007 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
I went with the Crucial, basically as soon as I bought my iBook. It's been great. Good luck with that!]]>Oct 27th 2007 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 27th 2007 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
If the author went back and looked at the CPU usage, it would not have been maxed, the system was breaking its back on disk I/O caused by swapping because of the lack of RAM. Always, always, always upgrade your RAM *first* if you haven't maxed it out before a processor change.]]>Oct 27th 2007 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 28th 2007 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
You are not going to be able to install it straight from the Leopard DVD to your 700mhz iMac. You have to trick the installer into allowing it. I posted some possible ways to another person in this thread, so search through to find the easiest ways to do it. At the time I am writing this, my post may need to be approved by the mods before it shows up, so you may have to wait a while before you will be able to find it. ]]>Oct 30th 2007 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/I'm shamelessly accepting donations for those who'd like to fund this experiment.]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
The Tiger version crashes with an error "the application DVD Player quit unexpectedly..." blah blah blah. What about Mplayer RC2? Was released for Linux earlier this month, can't find OS X compiled version.

Thomas]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
I thought Macs were super stable and never crashed?]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/
@Thomas: Did you just copy the app? Why not try deleting the existing Leopard app and any of its folders in /Library, then copy the Tiger app and the DVD's /Library folder
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The app crashed, not the whole system. Nobody said applications don't crash on Macs.]]>Oct 26th 2007 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/26/leopard-on-an-8-year-old-g4-power-mac-can-it-be-done/Oct 26th 2007 3:30PM