http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/ Engadget Comments for Wi-LAN claims WiFi and DSL patent infringement, sues everybody http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
In other un-related news, the world has gone nucking futs.

But seriously, what the hell. Show me a product that hasn't ripped off another product or idea, granted most of these has royalties and the like paid, but still. I've never heard of WiLan. FFS they have a "Litigation Update" section of thier website. it's just plain sad.

:'( i r dies a little bit insides

Question though? Will WiLan Blend?]]>Nov 1st 2007 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
If this crap keeps going on, soon no-one in the US will bother creating anything new, or selling it in the US. Sometimes I'm glad I don't live stateside.]]>Nov 1st 2007 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
Nope. Not at all. You're thinking of Trade Mark. That you have to actively and vigorously defend or risk losing it.

With patents, you can wait, selectively prosecute, whatever you want as long as the patent is valid. My guess is that they have "been in licensing talks" (another way of saying "trying to extort") and the expiration is looming. So, they are simply filing the lawsuits so they are in flight before the patents expire.]]>Nov 1st 2007 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
Essentially, as this article alludes to, they are in the business of making and enforcing their patents.

Below is their email to me back in Jun 27, 2007.

"Thank you for your interest in Wi-LAN. In particular, we appreciate your interest in presenting Wi-LAN at your course tomorrow.

As far as your specific questions are concerned, we have over 180 patents in our portfolio, many of which we believe are fundamental to products complying with Wi-Fi, CDMA, DSL, WiMAX and DOCSIS standards.

The impact of our patents for technology in the CDMA and Wi-Fi market is very significant in North America. Our patents for WiMAX, DOCSIS and DSL are significant around the world.

I’ve attached copies of our Annual Report, as well as our Annual Information Form, for more information. As well, please visit our website at www.wi-lan.com for more.


Regards,

Lynne Bermel
Director, Corporate Communications
Wi-LAN Inc.
11 Holland Avenue, Suite 608
Ottawa, ON K1Y 4S1
office: [phone removed]
fax: [fax removed]
e-mail: [email edited] lbermel [at] wi-lan.com
web: www.wi-lan.com
"

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Well let's just assume that the clowns over Wi-LAN really invented that "technology related to WiFi and power consumption in DSL products" and that they aren't just upgrading their Ford Fit to a Reventon. Then that would really be something to be pissed about.

I mean it's like... I don't know... say a brillant group of automobile engineers invented a car that works strictly on electricity and then petroleum multinationals feared they would loose control over their price abuses; consequently they'd shell out $50M (read: a penny for them) to the inventors to stfu.

Wait a minute, who am I kiding; that couldn't have happenned, right? ;)]]>Nov 1st 2007 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/HAH
ftw!]]>Nov 1st 2007 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
engadget, i own the patent to your name. don't post anything.
will I use it? no, I haven't for the last 8 years.. but I own it so suck it, and go away.

hey, strider! your dog, I patented the idea of dogs, pay me or I'll shoot your dog.

john mayor, I patented your mom last night.



WHY!!! WHY!!!! I hate the world I live in and I want to go on a personal crusade with a baseball bat to rid the world of disease.]]>Nov 1st 2007 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
They are the Qualcomm (cdma) of the OFDM world.

Plenty of the posters on here are saying they have never heard of Wi-lan.... Well whats new? Are any of you successful investors ? Not likely.

There is a reason why some of the most influential people in todays tech world are invested in this little gem.

DO your DD, resorting to calling this company a patent troll is just palin irresponsible and just plain lazy.


Weather those of you against Wi-lan's lawsuit complain to your hearts content , those and many others not named in the lawsuit will end up paying for what they have stolen.


Qcom_N]]>Nov 1st 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
IDIOT! ]]>Nov 1st 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 1st 2007 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
WiLAN has several 'essential' patents which are those that are on specific technology used in a standard. And they have, imo, one and possibly more 'fundamental' patents which are patents on fundamental invention that are used regardless of how the standard may be devised (possibly to attempt to get around them).

Like if or not, royalties are a part of all electronic products. The scale of royalties and whether a particular portfolio has merits is the only real question. Royalties in cellular phones range from 6% to, some analysts estimate, as high as 25% of the retail price depending on the manufacture and their cross-licensing and offsetting royalties.

Get over it: Wi-Lan brought two lawsuits against several companies so that they can consolidate the effort. Cases involving IPR are not easy to win and can now be contested based on new rulings including increased burden for non-obviousness. I think Wi-Lan has a good chance to win.

Wi-Lan is unlikely to 'win big' such that it affects the price of WiFi or DSL products. Much more likely, they will get a few tenths percent to a a percent of the retail price. The 'win' will be governed by the 'R' in the FRAND agreements. ]]>Nov 5th 2007 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/
We have a saying on some boards; "Do not feed the trolls".]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 2nd 2007 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/wi-lan-claims-wifi-and-dsl-patent-infringment-sues-everybody/Nov 14th 2007 12:48AM