http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Like Thomas said: "(remember, it's optional)" it is an optional update. If you have jailbreaked (or jailbroke, I'm not sure which) your phone, or added (and want to keep) 3rd party apps, DON'T UPDATE YOUR IPHONE!

Just don't come complaining that apple broke your phone because you ignored all advice and updated anyway.]]>Nov 4th 2007 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 6:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
......but you never heard that from me m'kay]]>Nov 4th 2007 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
But this is a bloody PDA. Its meant to run applications. WTF do they even lose by implementing signed code protection.

And dont give me that BS about unlocking causing them losses. Such people wouldnt have bought an iPhone at all if it wasnt unlockable.

Just like Sony's PS2 sales in Asia will be 0 units if not for pirated games.]]>Nov 4th 2007 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Just because it runs OS X, doesn't mean it should be able to run Photoshop. If it ran a custom OS - like iPods always did - would everyone feel the same way? Blatantly not; compare the complete lack of a fuss that iPods couldn't run apps with the total outrage that the OS X-based iPod touch was locked down. Double standards much?

I say this a UK resident who desperately wants the new firmware cracked open so I don't have to sign up with the jokers at O2. I have no right to _expect_ that, though.

Not to mention that eventually applications will be allowed on the iPhone anyway. Seriously, sometimes I just want to bang heads together.]]>Nov 4th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Yeah, tell me: how would you type or move a pointer on a classic iPod? That is the BIG difference: input methods. The iPhone and the iPod have them, the other iPods can't really do much more than "play media", but the multitouch screen + wifi makes them a far more interesting "general purpose" devices. Also, having Steve Jobs say "it runs OS X" seemed to make that point even more clear, that's why everyone was so upset about the lack of support for third party apps.]]>Nov 4th 2007 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
As much as I'd like to stick it to Apple for not having 3rd-party apps, more importantly, you want a secure SDK otherwise millions of spam coming to you is a LOT fucking worse than not being able to play Tetris of an NES game.]]>Nov 4th 2007 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/It may not cost them sales but it would certainly piss off AT&T"

Apple is making almost 500 dollars per contract with AT&T. Don't act like Apple doesn't have a horse in this race.
]]>Nov 4th 2007 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
And yet, come Friday the 9th there will be dozens of people complaining that Apple bricked their iPhone.]]>Nov 4th 2007 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
The other reason is that it is an optional update. If apple pushed it out without asking you first, then you might have a point, but they do ask you if you want to update.

The third reason is because apple has no obligation to predict or code for all the crazy hacks one might do. Also, since this isn't an unlocked iPhone, just a touch, it shouldn't get bricked. You will most likely lose all your apps.

To summarize, you have no one to blame but yourself if update your jailbraked Touch and loose all your apps.]]>Nov 4th 2007 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
If I buy an iPhone in the States, and go back to UK and try to activate on O2, will it work, or is it somehow region/AT&T locked? Could it be a case of simply downloading the latest update then activating?

thanks]]>Nov 4th 2007 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Its bloody stupid but i guess thats just another way for the big guys to stay in control.]]>Nov 4th 2007 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
"At the end of the 18 months you'll continue to subscribe to one of the iPhone tariffs until you give us 30 days notice to cancel. In order to keep using the iPhone you'll need to continue your payments on your iPhone contract."

So basically going off that, if you end your contract after the minimum period, the iPhone is useless. I find this to be a bit of a joke myself.
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Looking forward to the german and french dictionary though!]]>Nov 4th 2007 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Oh, lets see exactly how this SDK thing plays out first. Im willing to bet its still gonna be super tight & controlling with fees surrounding it.]]>Nov 4th 2007 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 5th 2007 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
I have difficulty understanding why there are posts defending Apple. We should be able to choose any carrier we want. I paid for the phone. Don't tell me they didn't make money on it when you can buy a dual core laptop for the same amount of money. If they give me the phone for free, I'll sign a contract. ]]>Nov 4th 2007 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
However,.....if you like the French way so much, then why don't you just move to France. That way we'll all be happy. Oo-lah-lah.

Most of us aren't defending Apple. We just don't care much to listen to bitching by users who knew from the beginning the iPhone was locked, that's all. Then again, that's just my opinion.

There's any number of things I don't like about America as a taxpayer, but I don't walk around the streets cursing America. I do have a choice of leaving or trying to reform issues I dislike. Reforms take time, so maybe you should just wait for things to change. Eventually the government might enforce unlocking after a certain time period. You never know.]]>Nov 4th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Tell me, how do unlocked iPhones affect you in any way?]]>Nov 4th 2007 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Tell me, how do unlocked iPhones affect you in any way?]]>Nov 4th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
But still - keep up the inventing! I would definitely buy the iEye.]]>Nov 4th 2007 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Typically if a phone isn't in stock then they'll say it was buggy and the operator has withdrawn it. If they're busy, they'll tell customers that all PAYG phones are out of stock, since contract phones earn them a lot more commission.

CPW and Phones4U staff are worse than used car salesmen.]]>Nov 4th 2007 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Here in the UK, not offering this phone on PAYG will kill it, simply because people only tend to pay for PAYG phones or get whatever's free on contract. Having a phone price plus an exorbitant monthly payment will put it beyond your typical Samsung/LG/Razr buyer.]]>Nov 4th 2007 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
Apple may have fixed the TIFF exploit BUT that does not mean that they changed anything else which would stop Independence working...

I guess we will see next weekend - I am sure the hackers will download the updated firmware.

One thing I do wonder is if this firmware is going to be put out to EVERYONE in the world or ONLY those with European iPhones? That will be interesting to see!]]>Nov 4th 2007 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/
The Tiff exploit will always be available once you downgrade...and there is NOTHING that can be done about that.]]>Nov 4th 2007 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 4th 2007 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/04/iphone-v1-1-2-breaks-jailbreak-coming-to-the-uk-on-friday/Nov 5th 2007 7:49AM