http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
And even if it DOES have ads, isn't the whole point of this gPhone an open source platform? So, lets say if it has ads somewhere in the OS, doesn't that mean you can tweak the OS to remove the ads? It will be kinda like Linux right? Everything open source?

I am definitely missing something here.]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
WTF is the difference??
]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Also, if it's touch screen, why still use a nav wheel?]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/1. A VGA screen
2. A good dock
3. WiFi and BT-2.0
4. WiMax/EVDO/HSDPA

... and I'm sold. I'll lay down my $600 without blinking.]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
They released a firmware update a week or two ago that takes care of the BT issues with the Mogul. I didn't bother updating since I personally never experienced any problems at all with mine. Now I'm glad I didn't as that update has been recalled and the BT fixes are slated for re-release in the the early 2008 update which is supposed to include and EVDO Rev.A update (It's Currently Rev.0). Honestly I'm very pleased with the Mogul though. I've personally never had any problems with it...and I can't even start to complain about my SERO plan. ]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
You underestimate the software, IMHO. While hardware is important and all, the crappy software can ruin everything. For a while I had Sharp Zaurus which has a distinct hardware (VGA touchscreen, multi flash card support, USB hub, QWERTY keyboard, WiFi, etc.), but it runs Qtopia Linux (by Trolltech) with such a limited functionality and inconvenient interface, that I can not use all the glory of the hardware.

I tried ALL Linux distributions available for Zaurus (about 6-7 of them) and I could not find any coming even close to Symbian, WinMo, not to mention iPhone.

Though many good Linux developers worked on Zaurus software (part time), it did not help much.

Also, remember the GreenPhone from Trolltech, which did not gain much popularity? Same Qtopia, that's why.

Now we are talking of Google as "His Majesty the King of Java apps", so I hope the interface on top of Linux core would be really fast and convenient. I hope.

But generally I would agree with you (forgive my rant). With nice hardware parameters + distinct software I would pick it up immediately!
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BT2.0 as in B|T2.0? if so add an external yagi antenna connection and it would be a warwalking/driving beast =D ]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
HTC took down that fix because it introduced additional problems, the next update is now scheduled for early Q1 2008.]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
Dan...I said that in my post:

"Now I'm glad I didn't as that update has been recalled and the BT fixes are slated for re-release in the the early 2008 update which is supposed to include and EVDO Rev.A update."]]>Nov 5th 2007 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
"(most likely not pictured above)"]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
Also @ Erwos
The way to achieve GSM, CDMA, WiFi, WiMax, EVDO, HSDPA, HSUPA, LTE all in a single device is via SDRs which are just about ready for prime time ;^)...]]>Nov 5th 2007 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
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But, having said that, I still can't resist...

I think I would find it hard to type with an offset keyboard. That's a lot of clickwheel real estate for your right thumb to cover.

If they would move forward with that styling, which doesn't look to shabby to me, I would make the whole top slide to reveal the keyboard, not just the screen.]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
Ridiculous!

The iPhone is the perfect size... anything larger, even with a QWERTY, is unacceptable to me. Figure out a way to add real QWERTY, with feedback, and a wheel, to a touchscreen phone the size of the iPhone. Do that, and throw in a fully unlocked open source OS, and you'll get my money!]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 28th 2007 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
That's way too big for my taste.

My current phone is 2" x 3.8", and I definately would like to have one with a similar size. Actually what made me buy it is that it is the smallest smartphone I have ever seen (Motorola A1200i).]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
That's way too big for my taste.

My current phone is 2" x 3.8", and I definately would like to have one with a similar size. Actually what made me buy it is that it is the smallest smartphone I have ever seen (Motorola A1200i).]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
This must be the first HTC-branded phone without Windows Mobile on it.]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
i guess the saving grace here is that since it's gonna be built on android i'll be able to remove that icon and replace it with something more useful, like an engadget feed.



see how i slipped it in there? ;) Now where's my money engadget?!]]>Nov 5th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/Nov 5th 2007 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/
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I'm checking out i-Mate and Eten - I've had it with the large clunky, THICK, low resolution, buggy HTC phones with crappy battery life. If iphone can make a fast processor, fast video chip, good battery life phone with decent resolution, I know that the technology exists on the hardware end that we just aren't seeing from HTC.]]>Nov 5th 2007 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/05/google-and-htcs-dream-phone-prototype-semi-revealed/http://www.mycellphoneblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/googlephone.jpg
Much sexier if you ask me..]]>Nov 5th 2007 7:18PM