http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/ Engadget Comments for Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
They admit they finally have run out of money to throw onto the war.

And all the money would have to be earned back from somewhere - most likely leading to next disk format (after HD DVD and Blu-ray) delayed and being even more expensive.

P.S. Expect HD DVD flamebois to get pumped]]>Nov 9th 2007 4:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Shame, really. All I wanted was for the format with the most storage space to win... Also, this puts any future PS3 purchase into kind of a limbo.]]>Nov 9th 2007 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
I think he thinking a little be more on the long term plan. If blu-ray does lose out the movie fight, it wouldn't be wise to continue making games on the format because any future console would also have to have a blu-ray drive to have any backwards compatability. So if they go to HD-DVD in the future for games, they'll need to put a combo drive in the system which would be expensive. Microsoft on the other hand, though they won't admit to it, was wise when they dicided to stay with DVDs for games. That way they wouldn't have the same problem that Sony is likely will face.]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
Minor quibble with your argument, but:
Combo drive expensive? I don't think so. The media is the same size and composition, and the PS3, as a gaming system, replaces all the software side of a typical disc player. And it's modifiable, so any difference in software required to read an HDDVD could easily be written in.

The only combo players out there are expensive only because they need to include both sets of firmware and manage the two.]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
But I am not going to even get into that subject but rather ask, if anyone knows the ratio and amount of disks sold outside of the US. I think those will paint a big picture as well.]]>Nov 9th 2007 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/I have read from numerous sources that HD DVD is being outsold by a margin upwards of 4:1 (and in some cases much higher) by Blu-Ray in other countries. I have also read that the United States is one of the only countries where Blu-Ray is being matched so closely by HD DVD in sales.]]>Nov 9th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
i believe Magnulus' reason for possibly purchasing a PS3 is the cheap-Bluray-player factor.]]>Nov 9th 2007 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
"very well said Lee Richards! Couldn't agree more :) Either BluRay wins, or neither/both... And now...expect to hear the typical hddvd fanboy replies, lets hear your bias opinion boys!"

No matter what HDDVD fanboys have to say, I think you have them beat when it comes to "typical." I think the pot is going to kick your ass for what you called it.]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Luckily, any HD purchase is still a year or two off for a student like me, so by then both players and the PS3 will be much cheaper, so yay for that!]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
So hopefully the Nielsen report coming out later today will clear things up. I expect Ratatouille to come out and be the first HD disc with 200k sales in the first week.]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
ITS A DEAD FORMAT get over it and get a Blue-Ray if you don't already. If not get your HD DVD player get your HD DVD movies be happy now because in a year or so you will have nothing more than an incomplete players and format...

Blue-Ray was the clear winner from DAY ONE...
The war exist only in Toshiba's head and its supporters the rest of the world have a Blue winner.

Engadget just because Blue-Ray it's SONY doesn't mean its bad. It's time to show some love to Sony I thing we had enough hating to that company from this site...]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
HD-DVD is very much alive. I know because I'm angry with it. It is the reason that I can't get any hi-def Universal or Paramount movies. If it were to die, then Universal and Paramount would give me my Blu-ray titles I so deeply desire. But until that day, I'm stuck watching Spidey in HD... which isn't so bad, but still.]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
I'm sure the whole 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 Blue Ray thing slipped your mind.]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
also, BD is NOT sony, it's the BDA where sony is only one member of many. somehow i get the feeling you're not too familiar with you so suppirior format. maybe this link should clear some things up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluray]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
I have never seen such attempts to downplay an issue while promoting another item in such a manner other than the video game console wars. BTW, since it is claimed the majority of PS3 gamers do not "know" what blu ray is and that tremendous boost in HD-DVD players installed in homes, that should mean HD-DVD movie sales should now match/beat Blu-ray sales right? I mean, if it doesn't how are you going to rationalize that away?]]>Nov 9th 2007 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
also, Sony has lost every format war it in which it has partaken.]]>Nov 9th 2007 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
You're mostly right... except for one of the most successful formats ever: the Compact Disc. Ever heard of it?

Sony and Philips made it.]]>Nov 9th 2007 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-DVD.

the last thing the customer needs is an HD market with overpriced players and media...IMO.]]>Nov 9th 2007 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
*srugging*

*running away* **real fast**]]>Nov 9th 2007 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
Any Sony exec admitting that Blu-ray isn't going to dominate the world tomorrow is well worth it.]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
oh, i can see the BD fanbois running towards me already...]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
Unlike Beta/VHS, where the tape sizes were different, the disc sizes of both HDDVD and BluRay is the same. The cost of supporting both sets of firmware will eventually drop to $99 and no one will care who makes the player because they will all support both formats.

If Toshiba wins, expect Toshiba to make HDDVD/BluRay capable players. If Sony wins, expect Sony to make BluRay/HDDVD capable players. And when they do, they'll tell everyone that they're doing it for the good of the consumer. "Don't throw your old BluRay library away! Toshiba's HD-A500 can play any format on the market!"]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/I thought the message was "buy your complete movie collection again". First, the studios release a standard edition. Later, they release a "special-edition", just long enough after the standard edition's release that no fan could resist going without the movie for that time. Next, they release a stripped-down high-definition version. Then a year later they release a new high-definition version that's re-mastered and encoded better. They really seem to be trying to get us to buy the same movie again, and again.]]>Nov 9th 2007 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
...then you win.]]>Nov 9th 2007 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
"Some industry experts suggest that within the next six to twelve months, traditional DVD players will be hard to find on store shelves as HD DVD players are completely backwards compatible with legacy DVD discs."


http://www.avrev.com/news/1107/08.hddvd190.shtml]]>Nov 9th 2007 6:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/ HD DVD players to replace DVD players within 12 months!!

Cool, I'll wait 12 months to buy one then and I may as well grab that copy of duke nukem forever sitting beside the player and hire a hover-car to get home, because both are as likely to happen.]]>Nov 9th 2007 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Between now and Christmas Walmart will have them back to $98 again, no question about that, Walmart wants to dominate the new HD market-Black Friday!!
Why would you buy a $50 P.O.S DVD player when for a little more u can buy HD DVD player.
Sounds quite feasible 2 me.]]>Nov 9th 2007 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/Nov 9th 2007 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/
With that out of the way, this statement from Sony shows that they just blinked in this war. Yes, you could argue that this is just a sell off of cheap players, but this move just got 90,000 players in the market with new HD-DVD customers. (Kind of the same plan Sony had with the PS3; sneak in a Blu-Ray player with your game system) The goal is not to sell hardware but software. Now people have the player, they will get movies.

Come January 08, I would bet that we will see a press release from Warner stating that they are dropping the Blu and moving solely to the Red.

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